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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    But think of the thousands of cake shop owners and wedding photographers in Arizona who have been forced against their sincerely held religious convictions to provide services to the sodomites or they were sued into oblivion. This is a big problem in that state.
    You forgot the bigots who don't like icky black people and are forced to photograph their weddings. Is that a big problem in the state as well?
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You forgot the bigots who don't like icky black people and are forced to photograph their weddings. Is that a big problem in the state as well?
    For some bigots, the "icky people" would be brown-skinned, either Latino or Native American. Almost always depends upon the numbers of the minority population in a region.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Business can already reject customers for ANY or NO reason. Meaningless law.
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    How can you tell if somebody is gay without watching them have sex?
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    Is gay marriage legal in Arizona?
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by BretJ View Post
    Most (all) of the cases I have seen so far involved providing services to celebrate a wedding. To many people, a wedding is sacred. Given there are plenty of other providers, there is plenty of room to accommodate religious beliefs. Otherwise it is just being petty and vindictive.
    For me providing providing catering, DJ, venue etc for a wedding is not a service. Rather, such arrangements are contracts. Businesses should have more leeway to decline contracts. For example: Yes, I have a construction company, but I dont want to be a contracter to build the abortion center, the gay conversion therapy center, the strip joint etc. Or, to be multi cultural: If say, Krishna Patel, is a Hindu electrician, he does not need to take a contract to wire the slaughter house...
    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    A few years ago there were cases of Muslim cab drivers in another state who refused to carry passengers carrying alcohol (not drinking, carrying closed containers) and to carry service dogs for disabled people. They were found to be in violation of the law.
    I dont think they were found to be in violation of a law. The city was Minneapolis and muslim cab drivers were refusing to transport alcohol, gays (and probably straights) who were showing physical affection in public, and people in general who wanted to go to strip joints etc.

    Anyways, I believe that it was determined that if the cab drivers were refusing at the airport, they could be banned from the airport (ability to pick up people at the airport is a privelage). The muslims, however, could under MN law make refusals outside of the airport .

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You forgot the bigots who don't like icky black people and are forced to photograph their weddings. Is that a big problem in the state as well?
    If the photographer is travelling to the venue, then that is a contract. Any business owner should be able to decline any contract, for any reason - or for no stated reason.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by trollarc View Post
    Is gay marriage legal in Arizona?
    Nope. This law is nothing more than a big middle finger.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Probably because you're to young and your parents failed to mention the personal freedoms they once had and you never experienced. /
    As a grunt infantryman, my liberal father landed at Normandy and fought in the Battle of the Bulge to protect your freedom to exercise your extremist views and spew your nonsense.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If they aren't violating anyones rights then the state has no justification to act on them. Sorry, but you have no case if there is no human right violation.
    In the instance of this proposed law isn't that the point? There is no need for this law. It serves no purpose. Are you arguing that SB1062 is necessary?










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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    But think of the thousands of cake shop owners and wedding photographers in Arizona who have been forced against their sincerely held religious convictions to provide services to the sodomites or they were sued into oblivion. This is a big problem in that state.
    So other than close some loopholes in the existing law, what exactly has changed in Arizona that warrants all the hand wringing?

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