Page 51 of 122 FirstFirst ... 41495051525361101 ... LastLast
Results 501 to 510 of 1212

Thread: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

  1. #501
    Professor
    Phil_Osophy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Earth
    Last Seen
    11-11-14 @ 02:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    1,450

    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    No, what makes you a segregationist is your belief that separating people on the basis of what they are rather than who they are is perfectly acceptable. Even endorsed.
    I dont believe in seperating people. So where are you going with this?

  2. #502
    Sage
    Somerville's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    On an island. Not that one!
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:28 PM
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    9,833

    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes, the people dumping stuff on them are criminals, but that doesn't make them somehow warranted to be on that property against the owners permission. Trespassing is a crime, and the individuals sitting down in that picture are guilty of it.
    Need to work on your sentence structure. I agree if by "them" in your first sentence you mean the "criminals" vandalising the store.

    How do you know the " individuals sitting down in that picture are guilty of" trespassing? Were you there? Do you know if the store owner or manager called for the police to come and remove the sitters?
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

  3. #503
    Sage
    Somerville's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    On an island. Not that one!
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:28 PM
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    9,833

    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Hmmm, it looks like there are still some rational brain cells remaining in Republicans

    Jeff Flake Wants Arizona Guv To Veto Anti-Gay Discrimination Bill

    A bill that would allow Arizona businesses to discriminate against LGBT individuals on the basis of religious freedom is headed to Gov. Jan Brewer's (R) desk, and Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) wants her to veto it.

    Flake tweeted Saturday that he hopes Brewer puts an end to the bill:
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

  4. #504
    Sage

    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Over the edge...
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:56 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    14,206

    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    It is truly amazing to what extent some people will go to defend and endorse bigotry. What makes it more troubling is that in this instance they are doing it in the name of religion, or by proxy in the name of God. Deus vult. When are the crusades starting?

  5. #505
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Need to work on your sentence structure. I agree if by "them" in your first sentence you mean the "criminals" vandalising the store.

    How do you know the " individuals sitting down in that picture are guilty of" trespassing? Were you there? Do you know if the store owner or manager called for the police to come and remove the sitters?
    The whole sit in business that took place during the civil rights movement was criminal; in that, they were trespassing on private property. For whatever reason they had this notion that they had the right to be on property they did not own, but the fact was, and still is, only the property owner has the right to be on the property. Everyone else in that building in the picture shown was there at the behest of the owner and that includes both those individuals standing up and those individuals sitting down.

  6. #506
    Sage
    Somerville's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    On an island. Not that one!
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:28 PM
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    9,833

    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The whole sit in business that took place during the civil rights movement was criminal; in that, they were trespassing on private property. For whatever reason they had this notion that they had the right to be on property they did not own, but the fact was, and still is, only the property owner has the right to be on the property. Everyone else in that building in the picture shown was there at the behest of the owner and that includes both those individuals standing up and those individuals sitting down.
    So - you don't actually know much about the picture. You just found it on the internets, OK.

    Libertarian thought (what a joke) has never been shown to work in society.
    Remember
    “There are two novels that can transform a bookish 14-year-kld’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish daydream that can lead to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood in which large chunks of the day are spent inventing ways to make real life more like a fantasy novel. The other is a book about orcs.”
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

  7. #507
    Bat Chain Puller
    beefheart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    The burning sands of the desert southwest.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:35 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    19,370

    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure it is growing....but there isn't much of a city right now. Don't get me wrong....Phoenix is fine....been there a number of times...but it is more of a big suburb than a city.
    Because Phoenix was founded late, it was able to be designed for people who have cars. So you don't have narrow one way alleys and people living on top of each other. Other cities envy us for being spread out, you need to be spread out here, especially on a day like today where it will be near 80 degrees and you can lay out in the sun...or go hiking, etc....
    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

  8. #508
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Seen
    07-19-17 @ 03:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    60,458

    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    So - you don't actually know much about the picture. You just found it on the internets, OK.
    I didn't post the picture.

    Libertarian thought (what a joke) has never been shown to work in society.
    Remember
    Except I was not influenced by Ayn Rand. I was influenced by such men as John Locke, Frédéric Bastiat, Murray Rothbard, Lysander Spooner, Herbert Spencer, Thomas Paine, Ludwig von Mises, Aristotle, etc.

  9. #509
    He's the most tip top
    Top Cat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:20 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,300

    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Yes it is.

    It is the right to free association.
    Translation: I want the right of free homophobic expression.

  10. #510
    Sage

    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    10-28-17 @ 06:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    15,248

    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    I dont believe in seperating people. So where are you going with this?
    No, you only believe businesses have the right to separate people. That makes you a supporter of segregation, regardless of how you wish to portray it.
    "Groups with guitars are on the way out, Mr. Epstein"

    Dick Rowe, A & R man
    Decca Records
    London, 1962

Page 51 of 122 FirstFirst ... 41495051525361101 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •