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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    here is a question

    how can you tell who is a illeagal alien?
    The same way you tell if someone is driving without a driver's license.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    We as a nation discriminate all the time.
    That's right. The progressive tax code is discriminatory by design and in implementation. Taxing people at different rates sure doesn't paint a picture of "equality" to me.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I don't believe having a sexual orientation should qualify as a protected class. Nor do I think being smelly should.
    That's your opinion because you never experienced it. I was listening to an interview with a gay veteran. She said her tires were slashed 11 times because she was gay, she was driving in her truck with her child and men screamed slanders at her. You think that's okay. You think we should condone that kind of behavior?
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I don't believe having a sexual orientation should qualify as a protected class. Nor do I think being smelly should.
    human should be the only protected class. And your rights should be protected. Someone elses property isnt a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    so how does one go finding illegal aliens? give them a special mark?
    im not sure what you mean? You cant just "go find them"

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Actually, I think a right is a right if it is enforced. Otherwise it is a wish.
    Tell that to george washington.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    It's not both. You want the freedom to violate me as a woman and if you are arrested for it somehow your rights have been violated? Really?
    I want what? How am I supporting violating you as a woman?? WTF?

    This was in response the statement by Gipp that the law is not needed because common sense would prevail and people won't do it to an extent that causes harm to anyone. Your response makes no sense in that context.
    I was responding to you comparing rape and murder to this.

    So you are opposed to the civil rights legislation of the 60s that forced business to treat blacks equally?
    Yes.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Slaves usually do think that.
    Are you calling slaves stupid? That's not very nice.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If a gay man enters a restaurant how can you tell if he is Gay unless he is flaunting his sexuality.
    Would you consider two gay men or women holding hands to be "flaunting their sexuality"?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Would you consider two gay men or women holding hands to be "flaunting their sexuality"?
    Followup question: how come it's not "flaunting" when heterosexuals do it?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    That's your opinion because you never experienced it. I was listening to an interview with a gay veteran. She said her tires were slashed 11 times because she was gay, she was driving in her truck with her child and men screamed slanders at her. You think that's okay. You think we should condone that kind of behavior?
    Of course not, and a bit offensive. All of what you mention are crimes that have nothing to do with equal rights as an individual (unless the police didn't respond because she was gay). Her veteran status has nothing to do with it. Not even analogous to this topic.

    And you assume [falsely] that I've never experienced discrimination.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    That's your opinion because you never experienced it. I was listening to an interview with a gay veteran. She said her tires were slashed 11 times because she was gay, she was driving in her truck with her child and men screamed slanders at her. You think that's okay. You think we should condone that kind of behavior?
    Slashing someones tires is not ok. That is a crime and a violation of property rights. However, someone refusing to sell her a hamburger would not be violating her rights. Maybe thats an asshole thing to do, but certainly not a violation of her rights. I guarantee someone else will want her money and sell her a hamburger

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