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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    All the pro-LGBT cohersion doesn't come with out some backlash, and now you don't like it. Could have left sleeping dogs lie, but no.
    Sure, could have let sleeping dogs lie and let the LGBTQ community continue on being legally relegated to second-class citizen status, just to avoid making the nutbars in Arizona mad.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    You cant unless they get arrested for committing a crime
    so how does one go finding illegal aliens? give them a special mark?
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No he doesn't. I have the right to protest discriminatory practices but you do not have the right to discriminate.



    Sane rational people don't murder or rape but there are laws against it just the same.
    I think when you want to do something that is harmful to innocent people then there is reason enough to challenge your right to do it.
    You know, it's funny...one of the biggest gripes liberals have against Republicans is their desire to legislate morality. Welcome to the hypocritical room.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    I saybit was a wadte of time. Lybia is not a us state


    Public taxpayer funded schools? Yes they should be forced to accept everyone at every school.
    you as an authoritarian nation have decided you can control the property of others.

    Nobody has a right to anothers private property.


    You may enjoy hearing that certain rights exist and are there, whether or not you recognize them. And you may also enjoy that some rights are not there, even if you believe that they are.
    Actually, I think a right is a right if it is enforced. Otherwise it is a wish.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Well I don't. The civil rights act already established the fact that discrimination against protected classes is unlawful.
    Yup, that is the topic. I like when people know what the topic is.

    Don't get all self righteous on me as if your civil rights are being violated.
    They are.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Well I don't. The civil rights act already established the fact that discrimination against protected classes is unlawful.
    And before Lawrence vs. Texas was decided, sodomy was illegal. Were you out in public chastising homosexuals for their sodomous acts and urging that they be arrested for violating the law? Do tell.

    Don't get all self righteous on me as if your civil rights are being violated.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    So you think a business should have the right to turn away Muslims, or Blacks or people with red hair? If you want play games with the semantics then fine. Just like we forced all those bigoted people in the sixties to allow blacks to eat and drink wherever they chose and allow them to attend the same schools I will do all I can to force you to allow gay and lesbian people into your restaurant. We, as a nation, have already made the decision that discrimination is not okay and all you just have to deal with it.
    Schools are not part of this, that's a bit of jumping the shark there. We as a nation discriminate all the time.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Actually, I think a right is a right if it is enforced. Otherwise it is a wish.
    Slaves usually do think that.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    ...............
    How could it possibly not be both?
    It's not both. You want the freedom to violate me as a woman and if you are arrested for it somehow your rights have been violated? Really?

    That is because killing or raping someone actually DOES violate human rights. That whole right to life/body sovereignty thing.
    This was in response the statement by Gipp that the law is not needed because common sense would prevail and people won't do it to an extent that causes harm to anyone. Your response makes no sense in that context.

    How is refusing to serve someone harming them again? I thought it was just doing not doing business with them.
    So you are opposed to the civil rights legislation of the 60s that forced business to treat blacks equally?
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    You've got a real knack for plucking things out of context and turning them into something completely irrelevant to the conversation. Congratulations.
    It's not out of context at all. You're literally raping freedom.

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