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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    We, as a nation, have already made the decision that discrimination is not okay and all you just have to deal with it.
    So what is your plan to force women who sexually discriminate against male gynecologists in favor of female gynecologists to stop discriminating and to start being examined by male physicians?

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You might enjoy reading the EU Charter of Human Rights.
    Socialists are not very good with rights. I don't much enjoy their drivel.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
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    The fact that he has it.
    No he doesn't. I have the right to protest discriminatory practices but you do not have the right to discriminate.


    This isn't about what sane and rational people do. If that was the case, why don't we ban smoking in all its forms? There's no sane or rational reason to smoke.
    People should not be allowed to smoke. Ever. For any reason.
    You support that?
    Sane rational people don't murder or rape but there are laws against it just the same.
    I think when you want to do something that is harmful to innocent people then there is reason enough to challenge your right to do it.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Was the Libya "war" a waste of time? We dismantled Qaddafi's regime, his mass slaughters, his torture room, his terrorism. We also unleashed chaos onto that society.

    The point is that there are some good aspects of the Civil Rights Act and some oppressive aspects. We can pick and choose.
    I saybit was a wadte of time. Lybia is not a us state
    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    So you think a business should have the right to turn away Muslims, or Blacks or people with red hair? If you want play games with the semantics then fine. Just like we forced all those bigoted people in the sixties to allow blacks to eat and drink wherever they chose and allow them to attend the same schools I will do all I can to force you to allow gay and lesbian people into your restaurant. We, as a nation, have already made the decision that discrimination is not okay and all you just have to deal with it.
    Public taxpayer funded schools? Yes they should be forced to accept everyone at every school.
    you as an authoritarian nation have decided you can control the property of others.

    Nobody has a right to anothers private property.

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You might enjoy reading the EU Charter of Human Rights.
    You may enjoy hearing that certain rights exist and are there, whether or not you recognize them. And you may also enjoy that some rights are not there, even if you believe that they are.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, and it's not should, it's does.
    I'm not about to just deal with human right violations. I'm stubborn like that.
    Well I don't. The civil rights act already established the fact that discrimination against protected classes is unlawful.

    Don't get all self righteous on me as if your civil rights are being violated.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    here is a question

    how can you tell who is a illeagal alien?
    You cant unless they get arrested for committing a crime

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    If a guy said this, we'd all be abhorred.
    You've got a real knack for plucking things out of context and turning them into something completely irrelevant to the conversation. Congratulations.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No he doesn't. I have the right to protest discriminatory practices but you do not have the right to discriminate.
    How could it possibly not be both?

    Sane rational people don't murder or rape but there are laws against it just the same.
    That is because killing or raping someone actually DOES violate human rights. That whole right to life/body sovereignty thing.

    I think when you want to do something that is harmful to innocent people then there is reason enough to challenge your right to do it.
    How is refusing to serve someone harming them again? I thought it was just doing not doing business with them.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    No he doesn't. I have the right to protest discriminatory practices but you do not have the right to discriminate.



    Sane rational people don't murder or rape but there are laws against it just the same.
    I think when you want to do something that is harmful to innocent people then there is reason enough to challenge your right to do it.
    Refusing to sell someone a cheeseburger isnt harmful to that person...

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Then was the civil rights act a waste of time or are gays and lesbians just not as deserving?
    I don't believe having a sexual orientation should qualify as a protected class. Nor do I think being smelly should.

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