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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    What I find odd is that all of these liberal totalitarians in this thread aren't recounting their own boycotts of Chinese restaurants which are staffed entirely by Chinese people or the Sushi joints staffed by Japanese. The rampant employment discrimination in these establishments needs to be eradicated.

    Think of the fine experience you can have as a nice Irish lass, with flaming red hair, take your order and the Nigerian cook fires up the wok to cook your dinner. Now that's fine dining, multicultural style brought to you by your local liberal totalitarian oppressors.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'm just blown away by some of the arguments made in this thread.

    1.)If I'm a vegetarian restaurant should I be required to provide meat products?
    2.)If I'm a Jewish deli should I be required to serve ham and cheese sandwiches?
    3.)If I'm a christian book store should I be required to sell the Koran?
    4.)If I'm a cigar store should I be required to provide a non-smoking section?
    5.)If I'm Abercrombie and Fitch should I be required to have a big and tall section?

    6.)At some point your desire for my services just might conflict with my religious beliefs and to use the law to compel me to provide those services is a direct violation of the 1st amendment. I'm sick and freaking tired of people trying to use the coercive force of government to chip away at my rights.
    1.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    2.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    3.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    4.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    5.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights

    none of these examples are parallels of illegal discrimination and violating individual rights, none of them

    6.) good thing this factually isnt happening so you can stop being sick and tired
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    2.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    3.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    4.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    5.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights

    none of these examples are parallels of illegal discrimination and violating individual rights, none of them

    6.) good thing this factually isnt happening so you can stop being sick and tired
    Not serving whites or Indians doesn't violate anyone's rights either. Unless you believe that you have a right to someone's labor, service ad property.... Which means you believe in slavery.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    What I find odd is that all of these liberal totalitarians in this thread aren't recounting their own boycotts of Chinese restaurants which are staffed entirely by Chinese people or the Sushi joints staffed by Japanese. The rampant employment discrimination in these establishments needs to be eradicated.

    Think of the fine experience you can have as a nice Irish lass, with flaming red hair, take your order and the Nigerian cook fires up the wok to cook your dinner. Now that's fine dining, multicultural style brought to you by your local liberal totalitarian oppressors.
    well im by no means a liberal totalitarians but if any of those places are breaking the law they need prosecuted

    the law and rights works the same and applies to ALL OF US, thats way this law will eventually fail because its people trying to get special treatment
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill - CNN.com

    Gotta love the backass republicans who voted for this.

    Why anyone would live there is beyond me.
    I do not think churches,wedding cake places, chapels and other related businesses should be sued/fined out of existence or forced to marry gays if homosexuality is against their religion. So I support this. Just my two cents. I am not going to debate this.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'm just blown away by some of the arguments made in this thread.

    If I'm a vegetarian restaurant should I be required to provide meat products?
    If I'm a Jewish deli should I be required to serve ham and cheese sandwiches?
    If I'm a christian book store should I be required to sell the Koran?
    If I'm a cigar store should I be required to provide a non-smoking section?
    If I'm Abercrombie and Fitch should I be required to have a big and tall section?

    At some point your desire for my services just might conflict with my religious beliefs and to use the law to compel me to provide those services is a direct violation of the 1st amendment. I'm sick and freaking tired of people trying to use the coercive force of government to chip away at my rights.
    They think that they can cure bigotry. The best part is that they think they can do it through force.

    Instead of letting them have their beliefs or allowing them the epiphany at their own pace, they'll just show their own intolerance and cause even more hatred. They have the George Bush method of "winning hearts and minds".

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    2.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    3.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    4.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights
    5.) of course not and this violates nobodys rights

    none of these examples are parallels of illegal discrimination and violating individual rights, none of them

    6.) good thing this factually isnt happening so you can stop being sick and tired
    Just when I thought you couldn't get more wrong you post again and prove me wrong.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Not serving whites or Indians doesn't violate anyone's rights either.
    2.)Unless you believe that you have a right to someone's labor, service ad property.... Which means you believe in slavery.
    1.) if you are talking about denying service strictly based on race, facts, laws, rights, and court cases all prove you wrong this is currently a fact that can not be proven wrong
    2.) this has nothing to do with what being discussed its a failed strawman and your opinion and nothing more
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    well im by no means a liberal totalitarian
    From what I've read of your position upthread, there's no doubt that you are a totalitarian content with trampling people's human rights in order to impose your "liberal" vision upon society. It has to be your way, and damn the human rights of those you oppress to get your way.

    Own your totalitarianism.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Just when I thought you couldn't get more wrong you post again and prove me wrong.
    facts, rights, laws and court precedents > your opinion
    facts, rights, laws and court precedents all prove you factually wrong
    remind me what you have on your side besides your opinion/philosophy
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