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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    unless the problem is to wide spread and the victims are a minority
    Smelly people are a minority (in most locales) and generally avoided by everyone with a sense of smell.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    There are places where gays and blacks are accepted so that point is invalid.

    Again, you dont have a right to others property


    The fact that it is my property gives me the right to decide who i sell it to. Now whats your counter point? What gives you the right to force me to sell it to you?
    getting there is not necessarily;y within any ones means

    and being bale to force people form there homes extends well beyond the property of business owners

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    You'll need to submit a study to the state that breaks out the population within 30 miles of your place of business over 65 separate and distinct demographic categories. The nuggets will then need to be allocated proportionally to members of each category. If one or more category chooses not to purchase your product you will have to submit a report detailing the attempts you have made to make your product acceptable to that category. If they still refuse you must submit their portion of the product to the state for distribution. However, if at any time within a 6 year period after the groups second refusal they change their mind you will be required to provide them with the agreed upon product at a price no greater than that at which they refused. Failure to comply with this regulation will result in charges of domestic terrorism and rendition to a reeducation facility.
    This nightmare scenario is not too far off. Already we've seen the Obama Administration suing a bank which made high quality loans and suffering a miniscule default rate because it made too few loans to black families under their race-neutral lending formula. The bank had to pay a large fine for not making riskier loans.

    Then there is the case of the Obama Administration strong-arming schools if the school discipline meted out doesn't match the proportions of the racial groups attending that school.

    Liberals have a totalitarian beast in their heart and they want to impose their vision of how things SHOULD be onto everyone else and punish them into compliance.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    unless the problem is to wide spread and the victims are a minority
    Victims? We aren't talking about commuting acts of violence. We are talking about providing or refusing service. You don't have a right to someone else's service, labor or property. If you insist that you do, then you are saying that person is your slave and must serve you.

    And we are talking private business, not government.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Smelly people are a minority (in most locales) and generally avoided by everyone with a sense of smell.
    and not letting them buy soap surly helps

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    and not letting them buy soap surly helps
    Someone, somewhere, is willing to take their money in exchange for soap. Point nullified.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    and not letting them buy soap surly helps
    It's free at the Y.

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    Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    getting there is not necessarily;y within any ones means

    and being bale to force people form there homes extends well beyond the property of business owners
    Forcing someone from their home is a crime and should be dealt with accordingly. Refusing to sell them a bar of soap, however, isn't.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    I'm just blown away by some of the arguments made in this thread.

    If I'm a vegetarian restaurant should I be required to provide meat products?
    If I'm a Jewish deli should I be required to serve ham and cheese sandwiches?
    If I'm a christian book store should I be required to sell the Koran?
    If I'm a cigar store should I be required to provide a non-smoking section?
    If I'm Abercrombie and Fitch should I be required to have a big and tall section?

    At some point your desire for my services just might conflict with my religious beliefs and to use the law to compel me to provide those services is a direct violation of the 1st amendment. I'm sick and freaking tired of people trying to use the coercive force of government to chip away at my rights.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    This nightmare scenario is not too far off. Already we've seen the Obama Administration suing a bank which made high quality loans and suffering a miniscule default rate because it made too few loans to black families under their race-neutral lending formula. The bank had to pay a large fine for not making riskier loans.

    Then there is the case of the Obama Administration strong-arming schools if the school discipline meted out doesn't match the proportions of the racial groups attending that school.

    Liberals have a totalitarian beast in their heart and they want to impose their vision of how things SHOULD be onto everyone else and punish them into compliance.
    "make me a sandwich or I'll get the government on you and put you out of business!"....... "And give me a bargain while your at it!!"

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