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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Putting limitations on business is not being anti-business.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    nice edit
    "Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers" - Voltaire
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Sure it is but work with me. Both are destructive to the environment. The only reason being forced to serve a gay man in your restaurant is even a problem for that business owner is because he is being intolerant. He does him no real harm. What I say to that business owner is grow up, let people be who they are and recognize that who or what they are is none of your business and you will receive the same consideration.
    No, I will not work with you. The only true meaning of the term law, as applied to the civil rights of men is the principle, obligation or requirement of natural justice, which finds its origin in the natural rights of individuals, results necessarily from them, keeps them ever in view as its end and purpose, secures their enjoyment, and forbids their violation. It also secures property, and the natural right to ones own labor, service, contract, and association, which are all of importance here.

    It does not however imply or permit that the state can decree that people have the right partake in property that is not their own, or to force others to anything against their will; be that, association, provide them service, or to sign an agreement with them of any kind.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    nice edit
    I cut out the rest, since it was just sentimental mush.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Putting limitations on business is not being anti-business. It's being pro-human.
    That makes no sense what so ever.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Now that makes no sense.
    No, it makes no sense to say that in order for the state to protect our rights the people must agree to forfeit some of their rights.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    And the thing you have in common is as I said - you both think you're superior, and support a state to force it upon people.

    I love dictatorships.
    Yeah promoting tolerance, acceptance and suggesting that we all strive to create a world of peaceful coexistence is a pretty ****ed up thing to do. I have seen the light!!
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Yeah promoting tolerance, acceptance and suggesting that we all strive to create a world of peaceful coexistence is a pretty ****ed up thing to do. I have seen the light!!
    So you promote peace by promoting violence? Well, that is one way of doing it wrong.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    For legislation to quality as Libertarian, the actual effect of the bill must be consistent w/the Libertarian ideal, not merely the wording or title.

    In almost all cases, the actual effect of legislation has nothing to do w/the wording of a bill.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Yeah promoting tolerance, acceptance and suggesting that we all strive to create a world of peaceful coexistence is a pretty ****ed up thing to do. I have seen the light!!
    Force. Not promote.

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