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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    The feeble minded can't comprehend broader concepts.
    I am honestly beginning to wonder.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Dumping toxic waste on someones else's property is entirely different than refusing someone service.
    Sure it is but work with me. Both are destructive to the environment. The only reason being forced to serve a gay man in your restaurant is even a problem for that business owner is because he is being intolerant. He does him no real harm. What I say to that business owner is grow up, let people be who they are and recognize that who or what they are is none of your business and you will receive the same consideration.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    This isn't anti-gay. It's pro-business.
    Nice spin Mr. O'Riley
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Nonsense. You are arguing the absurdity that the law must be violated in some cases, in order that it may be maintained in others. It's essentially arguing that a man must consent to have his arms tied behind him, in order that his friends might protect the rest of his body against an enemy.
    Now that makes no sense.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Nice spin Mr. O'Riley
    Truth, not spin.

    The only way it can be considered anti-gay is because it won't force people to pretend to be tolerant when they're not.

    I wish I could be a moral absolutist and superior like so many people on this thread. I enjoy watching the finger-wagging from way on high.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yes I have, and that's fine.

    Just like a liberal - thinking everyone else only supports discrimination against things they're not. If a black establishment didn't want to sell me fried chicken and collards, that's fine. I'd take my money down the street to someone who wants it. I wouldn't bitch and whine.

    I am pro-business. Period. Bottom line. End of story.
    Putting limitations on business is not being anti-business. It's being pro-human.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Truth, not spin.

    The only way it can be considered anti-gay is because it won't force people to pretend to be tolerant when they're not.

    I wish I could be a moral absolutist and superior like so many people on this thread. I enjoy watching the finger-wagging from way on high.
    No one is going to force someone to pretend to be tolerant. It's going to keep you from discriminating and redirect your actions. Like I said, this happens all the time should.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You seem to have a fetish about women on their periods, but thanks for sharing.

    As for the signs, yeah, go for it, says I. Three cheers for restoring human rights.
    No, just using the silly example from the bible... You seem to want to be the one who likes to discriminate...
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yes I have, and that's fine.

    Just like a liberal - thinking everyone else only supports discrimination against things they're not. If a black establishment didn't want to sell me fried chicken and collards, that's fine. I'd take my money down the street to someone who wants it. I wouldn't bitch and whine.

    I am pro-business. Period. Bottom line. End of story.
    You haven't read the bill in detail. Furthermore, the equal enforcement of the bill is questionable--

    suppose a private restaurant run By Muslims chose to ban Xtians on the basis of their religious beliefs, or a business owner chose to retaliate against the law by banning konservative pols on the basis of what he claims are his religious beliefs.

    If the bill simply amounted to an owner's ability to exercise his faith when running his business, these bans would be allowed, but then authorities in AZ may try to yank his license, file suit against him, whatever just to make his life miserable.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Phoenix isn't really a city....its more of a suburb. The "city" is only about 8 blocks....very small.
    Wrong. Phoenix is a 517 square mile city.

    Not very small. Population 1.489 Million (2012) It is the 6th largest city in population in the US. NY, LA, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, Phoenix.

    Los Angeles is a 503 square mile city.

    Chicago is a 234 square mile city

    Seattle is 142 square miles.

    Miami is 35.68 square miles

    Pittsburgh is 58.3 square miles

    Philadelphia is 142.6 miles

    Detroit is 142.9 miles
    Last edited by beefheart; 02-22-14 at 03:04 PM. Reason: The more you know
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