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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    "It was a pro white freedom bill, not a anti black"

    Do you guys hear yourselves sometimes?
    No mention of "white freedom" in the constitution but freedom of religion looms large. See the difference? Nice try though.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Point of fact it was not an anti gay bill it was a religion freedom bill. Whether or not that manifest itself mostly with gays is completely irrelevant and labeling it an anti gay bill was pure left wing spin.
    The sponsors of the bill cited in news reports and on the floor (I'm sure you can google them yourself) that the reason this legislation was placed before the legislature were the cases in other state. The cases THEY cited were Elaine Photography (New Mexico), Sweetcakes by Melissa (Oregon), and Masterpiece Cakes (Colorado) - all cases involving homosexuals.

    Ya, it was an anti-homosexual bill because the intent was to allow businesses to claim a religious exemption to providing equal services to homosexuals. The fact that people walked way, and in some cases ran away - once the legislation came to light and it was realized that this same legislation could allow others to claim a religious exemption to discriminate against blacks, interracial couples, Jews, Muslims, divorcee's, etc...



    If you want true freedom, joint me in calling what this bill what it really was. Support as I do the repeal of Public Accommodation laws for ALL businesses (not just those owned by religious people [or claim to be religious]) so that Business owners rights of free association and rights to their own property and labor are recognized. IMHO, Public Accommodation law should only apply to government entities and their dealings.

    This bill was about providing "special privileges" to a subset of business owners.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    It was a pro religious freedom bill
    No, it had nothing to do with what gets taught in churches or a person's freedom to choose whatever religion they wish.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    No mention of "white freedom" in the constitution but freedom of religion looms large. See the difference? Nice try though.
    Freedom of religion does not mean freedom to discriminate.

    Do not forget, Christianity and the Bible was once used to support racial discrimination.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    The sponsors of the bill cited in news reports and on the floor (I'm sure you can google them yourself) that the reason this legislation was placed before the legislature were the cases in other state. The cases THEY cited were Elaine Photography (New Mexico), Sweetcakes by Melissa (Oregon), and Masterpiece Cakes (Colorado) - all cases involving homosexuals.

    Ya, it was an anti-homosexual bill because the intent was to allow businesses to claim a religious exemption to providing equal services to homosexuals. The fact that people walked way, and in some cases ran away - once the legislation came to light and it was realized that this same legislation could allow others to claim a religious exemption to discriminate against blacks, interracial couples, Jews, Muslims, divorcee's, etc...



    If you want true freedom, joint me in calling what this bill what it really was. Support as I do the repeal of Public Accommodation laws for ALL businesses (not just those owned by religious people [or claim to be religious]) so that Business owners rights of free association and rights to their own property and labor are recognized. IMHO, Public Accommodation law should only apply to government entities and their dealings.

    This bill was about providing "special privileges" to a subset of business owners.

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    IMO it is anything but Christian to deny service to gays but if that is the way you feel then you should be able to do so. What's next, required abortions?

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    No, it had nothing to do with what gets taught in churches or a person's freedom to choose whatever religion they wish.
    How about practice the religion they choose. Really though freedom of religion died when Mormons were denied the right to have multiple wives.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Freedom of religion does not mean freedom to discriminate.

    Do not forget, Christianity and the Bible was once used to support racial discrimination.
    How so?

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    How about practice the religion they choose.
    They are free to practice heterosexuality all they want according to the dictates of their religion. Nothing has been taken away from them.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    How so?
    This is a very ignorant statement.

    Plenty of Religious Figures throughout American history have supported the idea that god intended races to be seperate... just as Quakers used religion to oppose it.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This is a very ignorant statement.

    Plenty of Religious Figures throughout American history have supported the idea that god intended races to be seperate... just as Quakers used religion to oppose it.
    I just can't recall whites only toilets ever being defended with religion, apparently you can't either.

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