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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    BOOM!!!

    that crap got vetoed just like i said
    Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoes SB 1062 - CNN.com

    but rest assured there will be more panic and fear and or bigotry spark up since equality is winning
    Everybody who isn't a right wing dingbat understood that even a bulb as dim as Jan Brewer couldn't let this piece of crap become law.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Yes.
    I should have asked a better question, but correct me if I am wrong I will assume you frown upon the act.

    You're just supporting the law with the law.
    What law am I supporting? This is about me being against a law that clearly protects bigotry.

    That doesn't work towards arguing your point.
    ?

    Well, you either take baby steps or do nothing most of the time. That is just the nature of the beast of politics.
    But this is about discrimination not politics.

    Emotional appeal.
    Not at all. Does discrimination exist? No emotion, yes or no will do this time.

    Nope, private property is private.
    Yes it is, you just can not discriminate when you put it up for sale to the public.

    Can people sue if they don't? Yes.
    Irrelevant.

    No, that is statist drivel that leads to tyranny.
    By opposing discrimination and bigotry? Brilliant deduction.

    Crimes are those acts by which one man harms the person or property of another.
    And discrimination

    A just law can only ever be one that protects the rights of people.
    Not at the expense of the rights of others.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Nice spin. This is just one more dagger in rightwing TOTALITARIANISM.

    You are on the wrong side of mainstream America.

    The right used to tell the hippies, "love it or leave it."

    I think it is now more civil just to say to the right, "Adapt and improvise."

    America will forever advance and be on the side of liberty. Let freedom ring.

    Social conservative oppression is a thing of the past. It will no longer be tolerated in America. One step at a time. Forward.

    God bless America.
    Eventually even outposts of racism and bigotry like Arizona and Texas will get the message. They just have this overwhelming need to publicly humiliate themselves every so often and then they get smacked down. They'll be back. Or maybe they'll move to Uganda or Russia, where their feelings about gay people are widely shared.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Eventually even outposts of racism and bigotry like Arizona and Texas will get the message. They just have this overwhelming need to publicly humiliate themselves every so often and then they get smacked down. They'll be back. Or maybe they'll move to Uganda or Russia, where their feelings about gay people are widely shared.
    Compared to, where is it you said you lived? What state?










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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Everybody who isn't a right wing dingbat understood that even a bulb as dim as Jan Brewer couldn't let this piece of crap become law.
    when you have mitt romney and others tweeting "vetoing it is the right thing to do" its pretty obvious
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Eventually even outposts of racism and bigotry like Arizona and Texas will get the message. They just have this overwhelming need to publicly humiliate themselves every so often and then they get smacked down. They'll be back. Or maybe they'll move to Uganda or Russia, where their feelings about gay people are widely shared.
    I wonder if Texas is jealous of AZ for trying to be even whackier than them? There is only room for ONE Lone Star State.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    This issue isn't going away. As liberal totalitarianism gets worse and more Human Rights are eroded, some state will fire the first shot to launch the new Civil Rights battle of our era. It's always difficult being the first out of the gate. Look at the long struggle that blacks had to endure before the ball got rolling in that battle.

    I so luv that phrase "liberal totalitarianism". Telling Americans that they can't discriminate in business or government is now "liberal totalitarianism" Telling Americans that all citizens should have the same rights and access to the same government services is now "liberal totalitarianism". Telling Americans that government should not be making women's medical decisions is now "liberal totalitarianism". Telling Americans that all religions and non-religions should have equal access to government property is now "liberal totalitarianism" but allowing Americans to pick and choose which religion, which customer, which 'person' is to reign supreme over all others is to be seen as "freedom"
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Compared to, where is it you said you lived? What state?
    YOu have this obsession about wanting to know where I live. Are you a stalker?
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Because I'm understanding better the excesses of partisan posting, though I enjoy it for election threads,
    I'm holding a couple of posts for this thread right now.
    The Log Cabin GOP on Chris Hayes called him out for piling on so to speak and not being thrilled.
    Hayes returned that a GOP gov vetoed a GOP bill, then Hayes tried to tie in DOMA, since log cabins disagree with current GOP orthodoxy .
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    Compared to, where is it you said you lived? What state?
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    I should have asked a better question, but correct me if I am wrong I will assume you frown upon the act.
    Yes, of course.

    What law am I supporting? This is about me being against a law that clearly protects bigotry.
    This whole public business nonsense you're going on about is just referring to the law. There is no such thing as a public business or a business open to the public.


    But this is about discrimination not politics.
    No, it deals with government, so it deals with politics.

    Not at all. Does discrimination exist? No emotion, yes or no will do this time.
    Of course. It was still an appeal to emotion though.


    Yes it is, you just can not discriminate when you put it up for sale to the public.
    No such thing is happening.

    Irrelevant.
    Afraid not. That is the force of the state.

    By opposing discrimination and bigotry? Brilliant deduction.
    No, this idea that you have that everything that harms society should be acted upon can only ever lead to tyranny. How many vices would you like to ban today? Hmmm?

    And discrimination
    Nope. You can't expand it because it makes you feel better. That is not how justice works.

    Not at the expense of the rights of others.
    Which you haven't shown is happening.

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