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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I guess some people are just against human rights. You just happen to be against the very foundation of them.
    the foundation of human rights is that all men and women are equal in the eyes of society and the law.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So atheist business owners could deny service to religious customers, so long as they assert that it's because of their atheism? Bet that would make a lot of religious idiots scream.
    Bet the relatively few atheists by comparison would be wailing too, once they go out of business...

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the foundation of human rights is that all men and women are equal in the eyes of society and the law.
    No one said they ain't equal in the law, that's where freedom stops though. Freedom and human rights don't allow for an abridgement on freedom of association.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the foundation of human rights is that all men and women are equal in the eyes of society and the law.
    A foundation cannot be built on a fallacy. This just dooms the foundation to failure. We can't all be equal. What we can aspire to is to have our government treat us as equals when we come before the law.

    We fought a civil war to extinguish one form of involuntary association, slavery, from our nation. Now it's time to finish the job and get government out of the business of forcing people into involuntary associations under the threat of law. Government must treat us all equally, but the duties one citizen owes to another citizen don't involve involuntary association. You should have the freedom to fill your life with friends, lovers and associates of your choice and not be compelled to form any associations involuntarily. That's what freedom tastes like.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the foundation of human rights is that all men and women are equal in the eyes of society and the law.
    That in no way goes about arguing against my point.

    However, you're wrong. The foundation of all rights is body sovereignty.

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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Tourism is down because folks don't want to risk getting caught in the war that illegals are bringing over with them from Mexico. I don't think most folks are all that eager to visit any open drug trade route.
    There's actually zero risk of that happening. Unless of course you want to hang out in the desert near the border where there is nothing to do or see. If people are avoiding Arizona because they are afraid of "getting caught in the war that illegals are bringing over" it simply means the people are sheltered and stupid.










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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    I actually hear Phoenix is a nice city. But, I haven't been there.

    Shame to hear this passing. The fear of the changing tides, I suppose.
    Phoenix isn't really a city....its more of a suburb. The "city" is only about 8 blocks....very small.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Ahh.

    You know, back in the 60s and 70s Disneyland didn't allow hippies in. I stopped doing business with them. I don't hate Disneyland, nor did I ever press to see that overturned by law or court, I still won't go there or take my kids there.
    If you stopped going to Disneyland in the 60s I'd venture to say the reason you won't take your kids to Disneyland now is because your kids are in their 30s. It's a wild guess but they can probably go on their own.










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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Do you have the same problem when a hot young woman is flaunting her sexuality?
    I would imagine, in the vernacular of expressing one's religious beliefs, they too could be refused service.
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    Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill

    I think perhaps.....that Texas has a communicable disease, and has infected Arizona.
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