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Government to Monitor News Media

Grant

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The FCC Wades Into the Newsroom[/h][h=2]Why is the agency studying 'perceived station bias' and asking about coverage choices?[/h]News organizations often disagree about what Americans need to know. MSNBC, for example, apparently believes that traffic in Fort Lee, N.J., is the crisis of our time. Fox News, on the other hand, chooses to cover the September 2012 attacks on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi more heavily than other networks. The American people, for their part, disagree about what they want to watch.

But everyone should agree on this: The government has no place pressuring media organizations into covering certain stories.


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304680904579366903828260732

This is getting very dangerous for the once free USA. That they have dropped to 46th place in the world free press rankings should be of concern to everyone, left and right.

U.S. drops in press freedom ranking, to #46 out of 180 countries measured - NY Daily News
 
Ajit Pai: The FCC Wades Into the Newsroom - WSJ.com

This is getting very dangerous for the once free USA. That they have dropped to 46th place in the world free press rankings should be of concern to everyone, left and right.

U.S. drops in press freedom ranking, to #46 out of 180 countries measured - NY Daily News

Well in all honesty the government has ALWAYS been involved in the media, especially from the 40's-70's....

That is why trusting the news would be an ignorant thing to do... IMO, I think most national news is nothing more than propaganda.

One thing is certain tho - the federal government absolutely hates the patriot/liberty/tea party movement and their independent press... We're an extreme danger to their Orwellian authoritarian agenda.

They view the liberty movement as much of an enemy of the "state" as North Korea or Iran.
 
Ajit Pai: The FCC Wades Into the Newsroom - WSJ.com

This is getting very dangerous for the once free USA. That they have dropped to 46th place in the world free press rankings should be of concern to everyone, left and right.

U.S. drops in press freedom ranking, to #46 out of 180 countries measured - NY Daily News

Your first link is pretty much useless to me since the WSJ wants me to log in to read that opinion piece...and I don't want to do that.

The second link reports that Reporters Without Borders dropped the US in their index because of the following:

America's bad ranking was based on the conviction of WikiLeaks' informant Bradley (Chelsea) Manning and the treatment of NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, along with the Obama administration's "increased efforts to track down whistleblowers and the sources of leaks," the watchdog group said.

So...our country tries to deal with a couple of traitors and tries to stop leaks of sensitive information and that drops us in this organization's index.

shrug...

Who cares?

I think that organization should realize that "freedom of press" doesn't mean completely unrestricted access to information.
 
The U.S. government has always had some degree of control over the mainstream news media, either through direct suggestion or by the pulling of corporate strings. Now that only a few corporations own the entire mainstream media, it's easier than ever.

It's unfortunate that people really believe we still have freedom of the press. As soon as "security" becomes a priority over freedom, there are a plethora of laws which the government can create and call on to "guide" the press.

Our government has become highly skilled at finessing its will into our free systems in such a way that people believe freedom has not been compromised. That's the genius of it.
 
Your first link is pretty much useless to me since the WSJ wants me to log in to read that opinion piece...and I don't want to do that.

The second link reports that Reporters Without Borders dropped the US in their index because of the following:



So...our country tries to deal with a couple of traitors and tries to stop leaks of sensitive information and that drops us in this organization's index.

shrug...

Who cares?

I think that organization should realize that "freedom of press" doesn't mean completely unrestricted access to information.

They didnt just try to deal with the whistleblowers, but they also tried to deal with the media who was reporting it. Remember that journalists have been threatened and detained in order to try and get their sources when these leaks happen. This was a few years ago, but Judith Miller was imprisoned by the federal govt for not revealing her source. More recently, James Rosen's phone was tapped and computer hacked. Fox, conservative media is constantly attacked by the President in an official capacity. Thats the executive of the USA using his unique position telling people not to listen to the press.
 
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They didnt just try to deal with the whistleblowers, but they also tried to deal with the media who was reporting it. Remember that journalists have been threatened and detained in order to try and get their sources when these leaks happen. This was a few years ago, but Judith Miller was imprisoned by the federal govt for not revealing her source. More recently, James Rosen's phone was tapped and computer hacked. Fox, conservative media is constantly attacked by the President in an official capacity. Thats the executive of the USA using his unique position telling people not to listen to the press.

Yeah, yeah...I've heard all that, already.

It takes two to make a leak...the provider and the receiver. If the press has accepted sensitive information then they have to expect to be targeted when the government tries to identify the leaker. I don't accept their whining about it after they've made their decision.
 
Ajit Pai: The FCC Wades Into the Newsroom - WSJ.com

This is getting very dangerous for the once free USA. That they have dropped to 46th place in the world free press rankings should be of concern to everyone, left and right.

U.S. drops in press freedom ranking, to #46 out of 180 countries measured - NY Daily News

This doesn't surprise me one bit. Every president that I can personally remember has tried to manipulate the media to putting forth their ideas, policies, and stuff. I go back to Eisenhower. The president has the bully pulpit and is heard loud and clear above everyone else be they in congress or just an average citizen. Any president has this built in advantage and each tries to use it to the best of their abilities, some are better at it than others.

But having a government watch dog is going way too far. 46th huh? Just like the U.S. dropping in education world wide, from 1st to 31st in math and the like, science, history etc. the basics. Our government has become so big no president, no congress are anyone else can control what it does. One has to remember we have non-elected civil servents in charge of all our agencies, bureaus, departments that were there prior to the election of any president and will be there long after any president has served his term. These are the people running our government, not necessarily our elected officials.
 
Your first link is pretty much useless to me since the WSJ wants me to log in to read that opinion piece...and I don't want to do that.

Here is the article from a member of the FCC. There are also other news releases if the story interests you.

News organizations often disagree about what Americans need to know. MSNBC, for example, apparently believes that traffic in Fort Lee, N.J., is the crisis of our time. Fox News, on the other hand, chooses to cover the September 2012 attacks on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi more heavily than other networks. The American people, for their part, disagree about what they want to watch.

But everyone should agree on this: The government has no place pressuring media organizations into covering certain stories.

Unfortunately, the Federal Communications Commission, where I am a commissioner, does not agree. Last May the FCC proposed an initiative to thrust the federal government into newsrooms across the country. With its "Multi-Market Study of Critical Information Needs," or CIN, the agency plans to send researchers to grill reporters, editors and station owners about how they decide which stories to run. A field test in Columbia, S.C., is scheduled to begin this spring.

The purpose of the CIN, according to the FCC, is to ferret out information from television and radio broadcasters about "the process by which stories are selected" and how often stations cover "critical information needs," along with "perceived station bias" and "perceived responsiveness to underserved populations."

How does the FCC plan to dig up all that information? First, the agency selected eight categories of "critical information" such as the "environment" and "economic opportunities," that it believes local newscasters should cover. It plans to ask station managers, news directors, journalists, television anchors and on-air reporters to tell the government about their "news philosophy" and how the station ensures that the community gets critical information.

The FCC also wants to wade into office politics. One question for reporters is: "Have you ever suggested coverage of what you consider a story with critical information for your customers that was rejected by management?" Follow-up questions ask for specifics about how editorial discretion is exercised, as well as the reasoning behind the decisions.

Participation in the Critical Information Needs study is voluntary—in theory. Unlike the opinion surveys that Americans see on a daily basis and either answer or not, as they wish, the FCC's queries may be hard for the broadcasters to ignore. They would be out of business without an FCC license, which must be renewed every eight years.

This is not the first time the agency has meddled in news coverage. Before Critical Information Needs, there was the FCC's now-defunct Fairness Doctrine, which began in 1949 and required equal time for contrasting viewpoints on controversial issues. Though the Fairness Doctrine ostensibly aimed to increase the diversity of thought on the airwaves, many stations simply chose to ignore controversial topics altogether, rather than air unwanted content that might cause listeners to change the channel.

The Fairness Doctrine was controversial and led to lawsuits throughout the 1960s and '70s that argued it infringed upon the freedom of the press. The FCC finally stopped enforcing the policy in 1987, acknowledging that it did not serve the public interest. In 2011 the agency officially took it off the books. But the demise of the Fairness Doctrine has not deterred proponents of newsroom policing, and the CIN study is a first step down the same dangerous path.

The FCC says the study is merely an objective fact-finding mission. The results will inform a report that the FCC must submit to Congress every three years on eliminating barriers to entry for entrepreneurs and small businesses in the communications industry.

This claim is peculiar. How can the news judgments made by editors and station managers impede small businesses from entering the broadcast industry? And why does the CIN study include newspapers when the FCC has no authority to regulate print media?

Should all stations follow MSNBC's example and cut away from a discussion with a former congresswoman about the National Security Agency's collection of phone records to offer live coverage of Justin Bieber's bond hearing? As a consumer of news, I have an opinion. But my opinion shouldn't matter more than anyone else's merely because I happen to work at the FCC.

Mr. Pai is a commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission.
 
This doesn't surprise me one bit. Every president that I can personally remember has tried to manipulate the media to putting forth their ideas, policies, and stuff. I go back to Eisenhower. The president has the bully pulpit and is heard loud and clear above everyone else be they in congress or just an average citizen. Any president has this built in advantage and each tries to use it to the best of their abilities, some are better at it than others.
Yes, until recently the press and the politicians (with the exception of Kennedy) have been in generally adversarial positions.

But having a government watch dog is going way too far. 46th huh? Just like the U.S. dropping in education world wide, from 1st to 31st in math and the like, science, history etc.the basics.

The drop in both categories would seem to be related. "Low information voters" is more of an observation and a concern rather than just a criticism.

Our government has become so big no president, no congress are anyone else can control what it does. One has to remember we have non-elected civil servents in charge of all our agencies, bureaus, departments that were there prior to the election of any president and will be there long after any president has served his term. These are the people running our government, not necessarily our elected officials.
There has to be greater State rights with much of the power removed from the Feds in order that people get closer to those who govern them.

Thomas Sowell assesses the problems here. Cruz Control? - Thomas Sowell - Page 1
 
Translation: There is one television station and a list of AM radio stations that the government doesn't already control, and that has to be dealt with.
 
The U.S. government has always had some degree of control over the mainstream news media, either through direct suggestion or by the pulling of corporate strings. Now that only a few corporations own the entire mainstream media, it's easier than ever. It's unfortunate that people really believe we still have freedom of the press. As soon as "security" becomes a priority over freedom, there are a plethora of laws which the government can create and call on to "guide" the press. Our government has become highly skilled at finessing its will into our free systems in such a way that people believe freedom has not been compromised. That's the genius of it.

That 'security' is often to protect the politicians and their immediate bureaucrats rather then the country itself. Nixon is famous for confusing national security with that of his own, and it would be a natural tendency for most politicians to do the same, if they can get away with it.
 
Here is the article from a member of the FCC. There are also other news releases if the story interests you.



Mr. Pai is a commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission.

Thanks for that text, Grant.

A couple of comments:

1. I see this issue about this FCC study to be quite different...and essentially unrelated...to the other article you quoted.

2. I think every news department head that the FCC visits should tell them, maybe not in these exact words, to piss up a rope.

3. I predict three things:

a. Nobody will really much care what Reporters Without Borders thinks about the US.

b. The FCC will quietly let this whole study die.

c. Mr Pai will lose his job.
 
Thanks for that text, Grant.

A couple of comments:

1. I see this issue about this FCC study to be quite different...and essentially unrelated...to the other article you quoted.

2. I think every news department head that the FCC visits should tell them, maybe not in these exact words, to piss up a rope.

3. I predict three things:

a. Nobody will really much care what Reporters Without Borders thinks about the US.

b. The FCC will quietly let this whole study die.

c. Mr Pai will lose his job.

My feeling is that the Federal Government will find a reason to reintroduce the "The Fairness Doctrine" and these 'monitors' being appointed by the government will find some excellent reasons why this program should be brought back. Of course, given the President's frequently singling out Fox News, we know where these monitors are headed.

Your 3(a) is spot on though something to consider in context, but disagree with your 3(c) - though of course I want you to be correct.
 
Yes, until recently the press and the politicians (with the exception of Kennedy) have been in generally adversarial positions.



The drop in both categories would seem to be related. "Low information voters" is more of an observation and a concern rather than just a criticism.

There has to be greater State rights with much of the power removed from the Feds in order that people get closer to those who govern them.

Thomas Sowell assesses the problems here. Cruz Control? - Thomas Sowell - Page 1

I agree with everything you had to say.
 
This sounds like it came straight from the top. From our Professor President....What better way to try and intimidate pesky facts from making it to the public? Send in the Government officials to say just participate in this study, and answer this form of 200 questions....Hmmmm....Sounds like maybe Lois Lerner found a new job....
 
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