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    Ukraine in Flames

    And here I am without any graham crackers or marshmallows.

    I do hope this doesn't hurt my retirement portfolio.

    Ukraine in Flames: 18 Killed in Violent Street Clashes - NBC News

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    Re: Ukraine in Flames

    Wow so compelling, your personal pleasure and retirement portfolio wow some people die for their freedoms. I'm sorry that's not captain America that's something I can't say on a polite forum.


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    And here I am without any graham crackers or marshmallows.

    I do hope this doesn't hurt my retirement portfolio.

    Ukraine in Flames: 18 Killed in Violent Street Clashes - NBC News

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    Re: Ukraine in Flames

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Wow so compelling, your personal pleasure and retirement portfolio wow some people die for their freedoms. I'm sorry that's not captain America that's something I can't say on a polite forum.

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    Re: Ukraine in Flames

    It's been difficult for many of the old countries of the USSR. The Ukraine has had a difficult time. I have met and talked with people from the Ukraine. They want freedom and financial independence but it is a rather complex mess. I wish them well.










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    Re: Ukraine in Flames

    Can't they not join the EU and not become subservient to Russia, and just be a sovereign country?

    The Old World still doesn't get it.

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    Re: Ukraine in Flames

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Can't they not join the EU and not become subservient to Russia, and just be a sovereign country?

    The Old World still doesn't get it.
    From what I understand it isn't that easy. They had very little infrastructure of their own after the breakup of the Soviet Union. Manufacturing, distribution, farming (especially the Ukraine), education and on and on was largely compartmentalized under the USSR. In many cases there wasn't much to start over with. No trade agreements, no currency, no standards, little or no infrastructure. If your tractor breaks down and there are no local parts it may be that the parts are made in another former Soviet state but who owns the parts plant now? And how do they fund production and how are the parts warehoused and sold and distributed? And what agreements exist now between your country and the country making the tractor parts under the old Soviet system? And how do you contact the plant to order the parts if their is no telecommunication agreement or interface? On and on and on. This some of what people in the Ukraine have faced and continue to face.

    Do you think the EU would welcome them? Why? What do they have to offer the EU at this point?










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    Re: Ukraine in Flames

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Can't they not join the EU and not become subservient to Russia, and just be a sovereign country?

    The Old World still doesn't get it.
    Oh, we get it. But power has its own ideas.

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    Re: Ukraine in Flames

    Bloody idiots. If your going to revolt against the government and act violently, then do it right.
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    Re: Ukraine in Flames

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Wow so compelling, your personal pleasure and retirement portfolio wow some people die for their freedoms. I'm sorry that's not captain America that's something I can't say on a polite forum.
    They need to learn the lesson from George C. Scott as Patton "I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country."

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    Re: Ukraine in Flames

    Sensationalist title...

    The protest/riot/revolt has been going on for almost 3 months. There are countless threads in the forum about it. Also, the OP is a child.

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