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This is standard nonsense the greedy trot out when their rigged game is explored
Oh for crying out loud. :roll: I just did my taxes, and my earned income was about $34,000. But I'm a greedy 1%'er because I recognize foolish, faith-based economics when I see it?
You think all profit belongs to the rich
That's an interesting claim. Can you post a single example of me ever saying so?
and if anyone gets a little more it will be the end of the economy and socialism will take over.
Nope. I'd love to see the incomes of all Americans, poor, middle, and upper incomes improve. I want to see those who are unemployed find jobs. That's one of the reasons I oppose foolish, destructive policies like increasing the minimum wage.
I've seen this bs my whole life, its petty bully tactics to convince people they'd better take that small paycheck and shutup.
So.... is the decision to respond with untutored attempts at mocking an implicit admission that you lack a better response.?
Then you complain about welfare, most welfare recipients work ya know.
There is no more "welfare" as we know it. If you are referring to recipients of various forms of our social safety net, then yes, the numbers of people who must work in order to receive the EITC do indeed make most "welfare" recipients into workers. That does not in any way change the fact that SSDI and SNAP in particular have seen explosions in the last handful of years. Even the New York Times admitted that ending long-term unemployment benefits would likely result in a decrease in unemployment, as people took lower-paying jobs than what they used to have.
You can't have it both ways... you can't pay poverty wages then complain about those same people drawing welfare because their job doesn't pay enough.
I'm not complaining about people drawing assistance. I think that it is idiotic the way that we structure assistance so as to encourage people to opt for it rather than increasing their earned income.
Yes you're right, entitlements are breaking the country.
That is correct, I am right about that. The Medicare Trustees, the CBO, the GAO, the IMF, President Obama's own Bipartisan Debt Reduction Commission, President Clinton, Paul Ryan, and everyone in between all agree with me on that, however, so it's not as if I've come to any particularly unique conclusion.
SSDI, for example, is currently scheduled to go broke in 2016, as it has ballooned in recent years.
Corporate welfare, tax cuts for the rich, an effective tax rate of < 15% for billionaires, effective taxes of 25% or more on the working poor.
:lol: you're going to have to sell that song to someone else. I have never paid an effective tax rate of 25%, in fact, reliably, I have paid a negative tax rate. I barely made it into the negatives this year, but that is because apparently we punish low-income people for the crime of attempting to supplement low earned incomes by saving and investing.
We really need to clamp down on the freeloaders who milk the real workers for all they're worth.
:shrug: I don't know about "clamp down", in some cases of habitual abusers, perhaps. But I'm a somewhat optimistic fellow, and my bet would be that the majority of those folks are simply following the deeply flawed short-term incentive structure that we give them. When a working mom faces a welfare cliff, of course she isn't going to try to earn more income - why in the world would she lower her childrens' standard of living in order to work more?