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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It never ceases to amaze me what lengths people will go to excuse US government wrong doing, and then complain that people hate America.

    The failed coup in Venezuela was closely tied to senior officials in the US government, The Observer has established. They have long histories in the 'dirty wars' of the 1980s, and links to death squads working in Central America at that time.
    Washington's involvement in the turbulent events that briefly removed left-wing leader Hugo Chavez from power last weekend resurrects fears about US ambitions in the hemisphere.


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/200.../usa.venezuela

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americ...049879437.html
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so what? Ooooh so dangerous...
    Money's the most dangerous weapon there is. Ask the Koch brothers.

    bet you'd be against radio free America too.
    Never heard of it. Does it even exist? I've heard of Radio Free Europe, which is poorly listened to and seen as little more than anti-leftist propaganda. But Radio Free America, nope. Can you link us to their website? I'll give it a listen.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Money's the most dangerous weapon there is. Ask the Koch brothers.
    The Koch Bros.? I think a better example of a Billionaire meddling in sovereign national affairs would be Geo. Soros....But you won't do that because you agree with his ideological lean....So, let's hear it...Give me the propaganda on the Koch Bros. involvement, I need a good laugh this morning...

    Never heard of it. Does it even exist? I've heard of Radio Free Europe, which is poorly listened to and seen as little more than anti-leftist propaganda.But Radio Free America, nope. Can you link us to their website? I'll give it a listen.
    Yep, Radio Free Europe is what I meant....But I knew it....The bolded part shows your disdain for it....How transparent you are.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I think you've got more than a few million arms to spare your right-wing death squad buddies, and I don't think it would require anyone to seek the permission of the C-in-C before shipping them off. You can always get around stuff like that. Remember the Iran-Contra affair?
    Yeah... stopping Communists is a terrible, terrible thing, for we know the Commie's are an upstanding lot that never whacked its opponents en masse. You probably would have been against shipping Finns arms so they could defeat the Soviets. What an upstanding lad you are.

    Perhaps Obama has a few guns left over from his Fast & Furious program; one aimed at arming drug thugs, undoing our 2nd amendment, and got one of our border agents killed. Problem seems to be... Hugo's Venezuela is Obama's kind of place.

    Me... I don't mind arming people fighting off oppressive regimes. It seems you do.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I understand, you're on the side of socialist dictators and against a free people.
    Really. Because I'm not on the side of the US instigating coups all around the world?? I assume you too think that the US has been charged with the task of righting the worlds wrongs? Except those in our own yard.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yep, Radio Free Europe is what I meant....But I knew it....The bolded part shows your disdain for it....How transparent you are.
    Funny, I thought as a good conservative you'd be all against government-controlled media. Just shows, you never can tell.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, so what? Ooooh so dangerous...bet you'd be against radio free America too.
    He's against just about everything that has the word 'america' in it.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Money's the most dangerous weapon there is. Ask the Koch brothers.



    Never heard of it. Does it even exist? I've heard of Radio Free Europe, which is poorly listened to and seen as little more than anti-leftist propaganda. But Radio Free America, nope. Can you link us to their website? I'll give it a listen.
    Actually people in Eastern Europe quite liked it. Of course, unlike you, they got to live under the leftist Marxist utopia you modern day leftists admire so much.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Really. Because I'm not on the side of the US instigating coups all around the world?? I assume you too think that the US has been charged with the task of righting the worlds wrongs? Except those in our own yard.
    You tell me? I don't see the UN asking the rest of the world's countries to give more treasure and man power. I too don't think we should be the world's police force, but I don't trash the U.S for doing so while defending despots either.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You tell me? I don't see the UN asking the rest of the world's countries to give more treasure and man power. I too don't think we should be the world's police force, but I don't trash the U.S for doing so while defending despots either.
    Trouble is, the list of horrific despots that the US (and plenty of other supposedly 'civilised' western countries) have supported enthusiastically is a long one. Here are just 10:

    • Jean-Claude Duvalier (Haiti)
    • Manuel Noriega (Panama)
    • Augusto Pinochet (Chile)
    • Chiang Kai-shek (China)
    • The Shah of Iran
    • Ferdinand Marcos (Phillippines)
    • Islam Karimov (Uzbekistan)
    • Charles Taylor (Liberia)
    • Francisco Franco (Spain)
    • Hosni Mubarak (Egypt)

    Don't trash the Bolivarians for despotism when you've been active participants in totalitarianism the world over.
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