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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    People? Ha. Toppling foreign governments is not secret US business. Venezuela booted us over it. Only if US interests aren't served by it would there not be involvement.
    Absolutely nothing you said refuted anything I said, or explained anything you said. Nothing. I'm embarrassed for you. Again: What did I misrepresent, exactly? Be specific. Try to stay focused, here. Like walk me through this, logically, please.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Absolutely nothing you said refuted anything I said, or explained anything you said. Nothing. I'm embarrassed for you. Again: What did I misrepresent, exactly? Be specific. Try to stay focused, here. Like walk me through this, logically, please.
    Don't be embarrassed, that's ridiculous anyway. Nothing you have said refutes the fact that the US supports demonstrations aimed at toppling governments they don't like. It's embarrassing that you deny this. This is specifically why we got the boot in Venezuela.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    This is specifically why we got the boot in Venezuela.
    Citation?

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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Nothing you have said refutes the fact that the US supports demonstrations aimed at toppling governments they don't like. It's embarrassing that you deny this.
    Except...no one denied that or tried to deny that?

    But...you think someone did? Again: extremely poor critical thinking skills. Whether you won't or can't keep up, I don't know. But it's one of them.

    Again: What did I misrepresent, exactly? Be specific. Try to stay focused, here. Like walk me through this, logically, please.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Yep. It was necessary, or seemed so at the time, to win the war.
    I'm sure you believe that too. But in reality it was mostly to serve the interests of multinational corporations.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm sure you believe that too. But in reality it was mostly to serve the interests of multinational corporations.
    Oh, sure. And the Boogie Man ate the mouse.

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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Oh, sure. And the Boogie Man ate the mouse.
    Just one little example during the banana wars (and there's plenty more)

    The government of the United States of America had threatened to invade with the U.S. Marine Corps if the Colombian government did not act to protect United Fruit’s interests.

    ‘Jungle Capitalists – a Story of Globalisation, Greed and Revolution’ is the extraordinary story of the United Fruit company and their dealings in Central America.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_massacre
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Just one little example during the banana wars (and there's plenty more)

    The government of the United States of America had threatened to invade with the U.S. Marine Corps if the Colombian government did not act to protect United Fruit’s interests.

    ‘Jungle Capitalists – a Story of Globalisation, Greed and Revolution’ is the extraordinary story of the United Fruit company and their dealings in Central America.


    Banana massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Now you are talking international security of citizens' assets. That is quite something different and absolutely legitimate.

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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Now you are talking international security of citizens' assets. That is quite something different and absolutely legitimate.
    No, we're talking about international corporations exploiting workers with in-humane working conditions. A strike that ended in a massacre. I can't believe the way you guys make excuses for this type of ****.
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    Re: Fears of more protest clashes high in Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, we're talking about international corporations exploiting workers with in-humane working conditions. A strike that ended in a massacre. I can't believe the way you guys make excuses for this type of ****.
    Working conditions around the world were bad then and in many countries still are. But it is better in many of the places to have the lousy job instead of costing more and therefore losing the factory to Greece and Romania or in the case of bananas the Canaries.

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