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    Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    I have asked the question before should those who pay more income taxes get more votes seeing how they contribute more.
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    Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes - Feb. 14, 2014
    Tom Perkins suggested Thursday that only taxpayers should have the right to vote -- and that wealthy Americans who pay more in taxes should get more votes.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    That's a pretty terrible idea. That would create an even stronger plutocracy than we already have.

    The richest 10% of Americans control what, 75% of America's wealth?
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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Exactly what we need!
    Its not like the rich buy influence and votes now! They should literally have more votes! Genius! What could go wrong?


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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Technically its more in line with our founder's ideas on government than what we have now.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Yes, so that way the 1% moniker becomes the actual reality of the United States and not just a horrible slogan.

    Do you know what largely kept the United States away from socialism? The perception by most Americans that they could work and have an opportunity to rise, and that there was less of a problem of class in the United States.

    If you want to speed up a horrible revolution (leading to an exaggerated left-wing polity), the best way to do it is to put the vast majority of Americans at a dramatically lower footing in this country than currently exists.

    Frankly, this was exactly what Theodore Roosevelt argued against. Big business was here to stay, but if you do not act quick, the real bane of the United States would show up: socialism.
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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    We could go back to only allowing property owners to vote. Would greatly kill city influence in elections.

    Of course people would never go for it.
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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Technically its more in line with our founder's ideas on government than what we have now.
    Yea, but sometimes some selective views of our founders were absolutely horrible. **had to say it**


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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    We could go back to only allowing property owners to vote. Would greatly kill city influence in elections.

    Of course people would never go for it.
    Yeah because it's garbage. There's nothing inherent about owning property that makes you more important to society than say, someone who chooses to rent.
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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    I propose that we take the vote away from everyone with an income above the median. Only poor people allowed to vote and rich people forced to pander to them to get them to vote the way they want.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    If you are a productive worker and create surplus value for the company you work for, and that company pays taxes, you pay taxes through your work product. Hence most everyone pays taxes.

    Should we give exclusive control of our government to people who have positioned themselves to collect most of the profit created by workers? Haha, that's funny.

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