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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    Remove taxes on small businesses and raise them on large corporations. These taxes would ideally get higher and higher as corporate profit grows.
    You may not understand it but corporate taxes are built into the products and services you and everyone else buys. If taxes increase, prices increase. That makes for a very regressive tax. Are you sure you and your liberal friends support that?

    Hand out additional fines for the corporations that outsource all of their production for dirt cheap. This will make small businesses much more competitive in what they can pay and the prices of their products. Small businesses will be more and more successful and will start opening up all over the country and creating some of that free market competition the right wing is always talking about, and it will also create a lot of jobs. More competition ensures that prices don't get out of control and employee pay stays competitive. If Walmart wants to jack up their prices and bring down employee pay in response to all of this they will simply go out of business and make more room for small businesses, so obviously they won't do that. Small businesses need help staying competitive because they don't have the resources to get the dirt cheap Chinese labor that is making corporations like Walmart so successful.
    I won't even get into all of this. It simply isn't the way business works. There would be some benefit to putting heavy duties on imported goods. That would incent more in-country manufacturing. It would cause a trade war but, as the major importers of the world, we would likely win that trade war. The heavy duties could have the side benefit of reducing taxes. Consumers then could vote with their own dollars.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    You may not understand it but corporate taxes are built into the products and services you and everyone else buys. If taxes increase, prices increase. That makes for a very regressive tax. Are you sure you and your liberal friends support that?
    If prices get jacked up at corporations people will shop at small businesses instead. Removing the taxes on small businesses allows them to be more competitive with the prices they offer.


    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I won't even get into all of this. It simply isn't the way business works.
    Compelling argument.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I have asked the question before should those who pay more income taxes get more votes seeing how they contribute more.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...ore-votes.html


    Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes - Feb. 14, 2014
    Tom Perkins suggested Thursday that only taxpayers should have the right to vote -- and that wealthy Americans who pay more in taxes should get more votes.
    As it stands right now, the rich are the only ones who get any votes at all, since they're the only ones who can afford to buy the candidates and pay for the legislation they want.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    As it stands right now, the rich are the only ones who get any votes at all, since they're the only ones who can afford to buy the candidates and pay for the legislation they want.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    While this guy is obviously being ridiculous, I would not be opposed to a very basic test for voters.

    How many people cast a vote who couldn't name the past four presidents, or point out Washington DC on a map? Unfortunately, a significant number of voters could point out Nikki Minaj from a lineup, but couldn't do the same for Colin Powell, John Kerry, Joe Biden, or Dick Cheney.

    These days, you should have a legal ID and at least a fifth-grade level education to cast a vote in this country.
    Literally Jim Crow. Wow, they aren't even ****ing hiding it anymore.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, if you think a program that is trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities is a good thing... Me, I know that means it's broke.
    "Unfunded liability" is a meaningless term that sounds scary, and is particularly useful for scaring people since you can use it to make up literally any number you choose.

    It's also not even applicable to social security.
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    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    [QUOTE=Anomalism;1062955222]If prices get jacked up at corporations people will shop at small businesses instead. Removing the taxes on small businesses allows them to be more competitive with the prices they offer.[QUOTE]

    Same compelling argument. Why don't you just support pure socialism and have the government manage all the businesses? That way they could tweak the economy to death even faster.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "Unfunded liability" is a meaningless term that sounds scary, and is particularly useful for scaring people since you can use it to make up literally any number you choose.

    It's also not even applicable to social security.
    Why not? Millions of Seniors will be drawing it (that makes it a financial liability) and there are no funds in the till to pay for it. All that money has to be borrowed, printed or taken in taxes. Sounds pretty unfunded to me.

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    As it stands right now, the rich are the only ones who get any votes at all, since they're the only ones who can afford to buy the candidates and pay for the legislation they want.
    I'll be darned. So how did we end up with Obamacare and shutting down of the coal industry? Which rich guys paid for that?

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    Re: Tom Perkins' big idea: The rich should get more votes

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    As it stands right now, the rich are the only ones who get any votes at all, since they're the only ones who can afford to buy the candidates and pay for the legislation they want.
    Neither Obama nor Clinton were 'rich', and Obama has proved that anyone, really anyone, can become President.

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