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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If you're a vegan all that is already provided by your diet.
    Vegans struggle to get enough iron and zinc (and other minor minerals), despite greens, beans and nuts every day. We also struggle with b-complex because b12 is very rare in plants. My multis serve as a safety net, I take about half of one per day. A whole one after a night of drinking or when I feel down.

    I've been vegan over 15 years.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Well personally I don't think a 2 cent increase (a rather high estimate) on a box of Kraft Dinner in exchange for less sulphur in the air is unreasonable.
    Food prices aren't due to a fight against sulphur. It results from inflation. I will get worse. Much, much worse. The big losers are the retired.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Vegans struggle to get enough iron and zinc (and other minor minerals), despite greens, beans and nuts every day. We also struggle with b-complex because b12 is very rare in plants. My multis serve as a safety net, I take about half of one per day. A whole one after a night of drinking or when I feel down.

    I've been vegan over 15 years.
    B12 comes from bacterial action not from plants or meat. A little brewer's yeast more than takes care of that requirement. The food you were preparing above, all heavy in both iron and zinc.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    B12 comes from bacterial action not from plants or meat. A little brewer's yeast more than takes care of that requirement. The food you were preparing above, all heavy in both iron and zinc.
    I know my nutrition. I studied it for years as a matter of personal survival. B12 is available in Nori and Cholera seaweeds. I'll check out the brewers yeast, haven't tried that before, thanks.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I have spoken on this several times in the past, and as a truck driver that delivers the bread, and milk that you buy, I can attest to the many factors driving the costs of these items. Much of this inflation is artificially imposed due to factors of outside influences from government, and alike.

    1. The price of diesel fuel...."Diesel fuel, the kind of fuel commonly used in commercial trucks, has not always been more expensive than the standard gasoline used in passenger vehicles. On paper at least, diesel fuel is a less refined petroleum distillate than gasoline, so it should always be cheaper to produce than gasoline...

    In recent years, the federal government has mandated changes to the acceptable sulfur level of diesel fuel, and refiners must comply with these mandates to create an ultra low sulfur diesel fuel product. This means significant investments in new technology and several distillations before the finished fuel is deemed acceptable by government inspectors. All of these additional regulations and high-tech equipment can cost billions of dollars, and these expenses are often passed onto consumers through higher prices.

    There are also higher federal excise taxes placed on diesel fuel compared to standard gasoline. Some critics suggest the federal government is less eager to impose higher taxes on millions of private drivers than thousands of commercial drivers who use a less popular fuel. Part of the reason diesel fuel is more expensive than gas is the total amount of federal and state taxes added to each gallon."

    Why is Diesel Fuel More Expensive Than Gasoline?

    2. the cost of uncertainty due to Obamacare...."Last week the president, for the second time in about seven months, delayed the employer mandate, which requires medium- and large-sized businesses to offer insurance to employers.The original Jan. 1, 2014, start for the mandate, which requires businesses with 50 to 99 full-time employees to offer the insurance or face a tax penalty, was delayed in July for one year. On Monday, Obama delayed it until 2016."

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    In fact, Obama has changed the law something like 27 times without going to congress to do it...If anyone thinks that these trends are business friendly to spurring growth, or lower prices then I have a bridge to sell them....

    The bottom line is that the progressive attack on capitalism is going to cost everyone, even those who can't afford it....So in the end, progressivism hurts the people it claims to help the most.

    You are correct JMAC......Prices are going up. I was even thinking about throwing up a thread about how all Team Obama and the Democrats say things are improving and then what can be shown in reality as it is otherwise.

    This is one area to look at. Beef is going up and now of course they are using the excuse of the drought in California. Dairy Products are up. Sugar, Cereal, Coffee, and Chocolate to rise up doubling what it is now. Which inflation is hitting some of these areas and will hit some more. As the Fed eases back on its buying program.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Food prices aren't due to a fight against sulphur. It results from inflation. I will get worse. Much, much worse. The big losers are the retired.
    1%-2% inflation is nothing it is within the healthy range.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    1%-2% inflation is nothing it is within the healthy range.
    But I don't believe it is 1 to 2%. Only the government believes that.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Obesity is rarely to be found when someone is eating healthy foods unless there are other health issues at hand.

    Where do you think the funds to support those programs comes from? It doesn't grow on trees......

    I'm not playing the 'but they have this and that' game. Right now, groceries of the reasonably healthy sort are expensive. $1.67 a pound for apples, $1.72 for zucchini and yellow squash, $2 a head of lettuce.

    Have you read some of those cereal labels? They are frightening... synthetic chemicals and high sugars are not food....


    Heya GG. Worse now with the way Winter has been too. Citrus crops, and others all affected by this winter. Same thing with Fresh lake Fisheries too. Already mentioning to the consumers that these prices for these types of foods will be on the rise.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    But I don't believe it is 1 to 2%. Only the government believes that.
    It is though, according to the Bureau of Labour Statistics it is 1.1% over the past year for food.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    It is though, according to the Bureau of Labour Statistics it is 1.1% over the past year for food.
    Like I said, only the government believes that.

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