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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Obesity is rarely to be found when someone is eating healthy foods unless there are other health issues at hand.

    Where do you think the funds to support those programs comes from? It doesn't grow on trees......

    I'm not playing the 'but they have this and that' game. Right now, groceries of the reasonably healthy sort are expensive. $1.67 a pound for apples, $1.72 for zucchini and yellow squash, $2 a head of lettuce.

    Have you read some of those cereal labels? They are frightening... synthetic chemicals and high sugars are not food....
    The obesity is generally caused by eating to much food, of either a high sugar or high fat content with little physical activity. Ie Big macs and Coke

    Ground beef is cheap and so is pasta, pasta sauce can be generic and while the taste is probably horrible it should have some nutrients. Milk and water can substitute for Coke or Monster energy drinks

    Puffed wheat can be bought in bulk and is much cheaper and healthier then most children style cereals
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Obesity is rarely to be found when someone is eating healthy foods unless there are other health issues at hand.

    Where do you think the funds to support those programs comes from? It doesn't grow on trees......

    I'm not playing the 'but they have this and that' game. Right now, groceries of the reasonably healthy sort are expensive. $1.67 a pound for apples, $1.72 for zucchini and yellow squash, $2 a head of lettuce.

    Have you read some of those cereal labels? They are frightening... synthetic chemicals and high sugars are not food....
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    Wealth is not a limited source.Now back on topic....

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    So which is it

    Wealth is not limited or does it grow like a tree?
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
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    So which is it

    Wealth is not limited or does it grow like a tree?
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, all we have to do is tell people what good nutrition is, and the money to buy food will magically appear in their wallets
    It's how they spend what they have that is important.

    And what impact does poor nutrition have on them? Higher needs to seek medical attention, general poor health and lack of energy, mental health deterioration....

    Perhaps that's the way some would prefer it.....

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
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    So which is it

    Wealth is not limited or does it grow like a tree?
    WEALTH is not limited.

    TAX MONEY (that supports these programs) does not grow on trees.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    WEALTH is not limited.

    TAX MONEY (that supports these programs) does not grow on trees.

    Nice try, no teddy bear.

    The tax money is generated from wealth which grows, like a tree. As wealth and income grows assuming tax rates stay the same tax money grows as well like a tree
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The obesity is generally caused by eating to much food, of either a high sugar or high fat content with little physical activity. Ie Big macs and Coke

    Ground beef is cheap and so is pasta, pasta sauce can be generic and while the taste is probably horrible it should have some nutrients. Milk and water can substitute for Coke or Monster energy drinks

    Puffed wheat can be bought in bulk and is much cheaper and healthier then most children style cereals
    Healthy food provides nutrients to the body, and when a person consumes high sugar or high fat foods, they are not providing good nutrients to the body, then the body craves more food trying to obtain those nutrients. Vicious cycle.

    Ground beef, 80% lean at $9 for 2 pounds, is not exactly what I deem 'inexpensive'. Exactly what nutrient value does pasta have? Most are pure carb (sugars).
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I have spoken on this several times in the past, and as a truck driver that delivers the bread, and milk that you buy, I can attest to the many factors driving the costs of these items. Much of this inflation is artificially imposed due to factors of outside influences from government, and alike.

    1. The price of diesel fuel...."Diesel fuel, the kind of fuel commonly used in commercial trucks, has not always been more expensive than the standard gasoline used in passenger vehicles. On paper at least, diesel fuel is a less refined petroleum distillate than gasoline, so it should always be cheaper to produce than gasoline...

    In recent years, the federal government has mandated changes to the acceptable sulfur level of diesel fuel, and refiners must comply with these mandates to create an ultra low sulfur diesel fuel product. This means significant investments in new technology and several distillations before the finished fuel is deemed acceptable by government inspectors. All of these additional regulations and high-tech equipment can cost billions of dollars, and these expenses are often passed onto consumers through higher prices.

    There are also higher federal excise taxes placed on diesel fuel compared to standard gasoline. Some critics suggest the federal government is less eager to impose higher taxes on millions of private drivers than thousands of commercial drivers who use a less popular fuel. Part of the reason diesel fuel is more expensive than gas is the total amount of federal and state taxes added to each gallon."

    Why is Diesel Fuel More Expensive Than Gasoline?

    2. the cost of uncertainty due to Obamacare...."Last week the president, for the second time in about seven months, delayed the employer mandate, which requires medium- and large-sized businesses to offer insurance to employers.The original Jan. 1, 2014, start for the mandate, which requires businesses with 50 to 99 full-time employees to offer the insurance or face a tax penalty, was delayed in July for one year. On Monday, Obama delayed it until 2016."

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    In fact, Obama has changed the law something like 27 times without going to congress to do it...If anyone thinks that these trends are business friendly to spurring growth, or lower prices then I have a bridge to sell them....

    The bottom line is that the progressive attack on capitalism is going to cost everyone, even those who can't afford it....So in the end, progressivism hurts the people it claims to help the most.
    Meat prices have shot up a lot, but that is mostly due to ranchers killing their cattle early, and now there is less meat available. This is mostly due to the drought that has hit the western US. Supply and demand 101.
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Food prices soar as incomes stand still
    no biggie. our trickle down checks from the 2003 tax cuts are in the mail, and the magic market will surely solve the rest.

    i'm still trying to decide what i will buy with my trickle down money. i'm thinking a pony.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    We to be reasonable we don't want diesel spewing large amounts of sulphur into the air because it is toxic. It think that is perfectly reasonable. Could be much much worse, your food could rely on the cost of avgas. You just have single payer system and that greatly reduces the burden upon employers.
    I am going to assume you know nothing of what goes on in a diesel truck. If the government didn't mandate another 20K worth of parts to meet epa standards trucks would be so problematic.

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