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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Those poor, poor wealthy CEO's. My heart bleeds for them

    Yeah, didn't you know, Grant? In Sangha screwed up world having money is a license to say whatever ignorant crap you want about them... unless you are a Democrat, then he needs to check his scorecard.
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Yeah, didn't you know, Grant? In Sangha screwed up world having money is a license to say whatever ignorant crap you want about them... unless you are a Democrat, then he needs to check his scorecard.
    If you want to feel bad for those poor, poor, wealthy CEO's then be my guest

    But I don't see you explaining why I should do the same. Why should I worry about them?
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is "the government," calculates and publishes inflation statistics in all kinds of ways, one of which is the core CPI, which does not include food and energy costs. Although.....its not called lying.
    The index that includes food and energy increased at a slower pace than the aforementioned metric.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If you want to feel bad for those poor, poor, wealthy CEO's then be my guest

    But I don't see you explaining why I should do the same. Why should I worry about them?

    I am simply pointing out that you seem to have the gene of the typical revolutionary socialist that doesn't allow you to judge statements on their actual merits until first the subject's bank account has been inspected.

    I was always taught to judge people by the content of their character, you seem to have short circuited that and judge people's character by their bank account.
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by KeeKee View Post
    You don't want brewers yeast you want nutritional yeast. Many vegans use nutritional yeast to create cheese like sauces. Personally I cannot get used to nutritional yeast.
    Actually no, though I had to look that one up. Neither has onboard B12, but the brewer's yeast that is offerred in grocery stores and health food chains all has the added B12. Nutrional yeast lacks some of the minerals the brewer's yeast has.

    BREWERS YEAST VERSUS NUTRITIONAL YEAST

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Low sulfur diesel and these ridiculous carbon sequester systems now mandatory on OTR tractors are for the most part junk! I read somewhere that at least 50% of them report problems within the first 100K miles....Just to let you know that is about 6 months, to 10 months of driving....Would you buy a car that broke down within the first month? Plus this raises the cost of doing business....Down time, increased cost to comply with fleet regulations, and price of diesel fuel, all are factors....



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    That's pretty bad since an OTR tractor isn't even considered to have been broken in yet until 100 K miles.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I am simply pointing out that you seem to have the gene of the typical revolutionary socialist that doesn't allow you to judge statements on their actual merits until first the subject's bank account has been inspected.

    I was always taught to judge people by the content of their character, you seem to have short circuited that and judge people's character by their bank account.
    You sound confused. the post I responded complained because people weren't complaining about some rich people such as actors or athletes.

    furthermore, I haven't judged anyone. Please go through the thread and if you can find a quote of me saying anything negative about any wealthy person, then please post it.

    All I did was ask why I should feel sympathy for the wealthy. I think it's revealing that you can't find one reason why I should

    SO I'll ask you again - Why should I feel bad for the wealthy?
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I have spoken on this several times in the past, and as a truck driver that delivers the bread, and milk that you buy, I can attest to the many factors driving the costs of these items. Much of this inflation is artificially imposed due to factors of outside influences from government, and alike.

    1. The price of diesel fuel...."Diesel fuel, the kind of fuel commonly used in commercial trucks, has not always been more expensive than the standard gasoline used in passenger vehicles. On paper at least, diesel fuel is a less refined petroleum distillate than gasoline, so it should always be cheaper to produce than gasoline...

    In recent years, the federal government has mandated changes to the acceptable sulfur level of diesel fuel, and refiners must comply with these mandates to create an ultra low sulfur diesel fuel product. This means significant investments in new technology and several distillations before the finished fuel is deemed acceptable by government inspectors. All of these additional regulations and high-tech equipment can cost billions of dollars, and these expenses are often passed onto consumers through higher prices.

    There are also higher federal excise taxes placed on diesel fuel compared to standard gasoline. Some critics suggest the federal government is less eager to impose higher taxes on millions of private drivers than thousands of commercial drivers who use a less popular fuel. Part of the reason diesel fuel is more expensive than gas is the total amount of federal and state taxes added to each gallon."

    Why is Diesel Fuel More Expensive Than Gasoline?

    2. the cost of uncertainty due to Obamacare...."Last week the president, for the second time in about seven months, delayed the employer mandate, which requires medium- and large-sized businesses to offer insurance to employers.The original Jan. 1, 2014, start for the mandate, which requires businesses with 50 to 99 full-time employees to offer the insurance or face a tax penalty, was delayed in July for one year. On Monday, Obama delayed it until 2016."

    Republicans: Obama violating Constitution, but little can be done about it | Fox News


    In fact, Obama has changed the law something like 27 times without going to congress to do it...If anyone thinks that these trends are business friendly to spurring growth, or lower prices then I have a bridge to sell them....

    The bottom line is that the progressive attack on capitalism is going to cost everyone, even those who can't afford it....So in the end, progressivism hurts the people it claims to help the most.
    Yes, well economic stagnation is the goal here. There are 2 parts to this, as said here, one rising costs which could be attributed to government intervention, the second is stagnate incomes, which is also because of government intervention. In general, prices are going to increase over time, at the very least they're going to track inflation. So at the very least, wages must track inflation. Ideally, they keep a bit ahead and allow a lot of turnover in population. Economic mobility is good for market competition (which is the main reason it is deplored by the super rich and mega corporation).

    We should definitely move in ways to elemintate or control the artificial increase in pricing due to government, but we also must move in ways to eliminate the artificial income stagnation due to government as well. A true push back towards free market capitalism as opposed to this corporate capitalist system the last few presidents have worked hard to establish and nurture.
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    It is their job to calculate inflation and make the information publicly available, it is the real statistics. Please tell me how the government is lying about inflation?
    There are many ways to do this and the gov't intends to use them all. The gov't has a vested interest (pun intended) to keep the official inflation number low: it is a huge borrower and has all sorts of programs (e.g. Social Security and gov't pensions) that have built in COLAs. Try a search on the topic (Gov't lies about inflation) and you will see many interesting links.

    Steak, Hamburger and Dog Food: How the Government Lies About the Real Inflation Rate

    Why Lie About Inflation? Because It Covers Up Bigger Lies | Gains Pains & Capital
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    We to be reasonable we don't want diesel spewing large amounts of sulphur into the air because it is toxic. It think that is perfectly reasonable. Could be much much worse, your food could rely on the cost of avgas. You just have single payer system and that greatly reduces the burden upon employers.
    Yet major cities are progressive strongholds.... Meanwhile the rural US is predominately right leaning or libertarian/classical liberal.

    It's almost like progressives enjoy inhaling those industrial fumes, and exhaust from semi's.

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