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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    When I was researching retirement homes for my mother some years ago a volunteer told me that she and others in the community deliver food to low income seniors in the area. She said that there were instances of them eating cat food because it was all they could afford. How ****ing tragic is that? Point being, there are alternatives but it is tough to know what those are without the education you have and my daughter has and affordability is a huge factor. You just can't deny that given the number of people out there who struggle with this issue every day. They aren't all lazy idiots.
    Yeah that was the old tale going around for decades. Thing is, certain brands of cat food are quite nutritious and the smell is no worse than a can of refried beans. We feed our pets very well in this country.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    When I was researching retirement homes for my mother some years ago a volunteer told me that she and others in the community deliver food to low income seniors in the area. She said that there were instances of them eating cat food because it was all they could afford. How ****ing tragic is that? Point being, there are alternatives but it is tough to know what those are without the education you have and my daughter has and affordability is a huge factor. You just can't deny that given the number of people out there who struggle with this issue every day. They aren't all lazy idiots.
    I'm well aware that there are some who eat cat food. It's horrifying.

    No one ever said they were lazy idiots, it's a matter of giving them as much information as possible so they can improve their food choices.
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    Anecdotally, I was stocking up on cat food for my cats at a store where it was on sale, it was the only thing I was buying. The young man who was bagging it up looked at what I had bought and very solemnly said "God bless you' as I took my bag. It took me a few minutes to realize what he was referring to.
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Please quote where I said education only.

    I believe information is the best source for people to make educated choices.

    Since you haven't offered any other alternative methods of providing nutrition, I'll have to guess you have none to offer.
    I posted a list of things the right wingers want to do to provide food relief to the poor. Since you don't seem to get the sarcasm of my post, I will spell it out for you - Do the opposite of what the right wingers want to do.

    And as far your "Please quote where I said education only" remark goes, here's this:

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    And the left alternative is to create a ongoing drain on everybody via the government, while collecting additional tax money to make more and more people dependent on the government, while continuing to allow people to believe, nay, reinforce the thought, that what someone else makes has anything to do with what they earn themselves.

    Making adequate nutrition 'available' is brought about by information and education, not by taxing other people.
    SO you don't think we should use tax dollars to help the poor get food, but suddenly you're all for Food Stamps and other govt programs. Your posts are full of crap
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    what you do with your trickle down check is up to you, but stay away from my pony. i'm going to hire a security firm to guard the perimeter of my compound with the rest of my trickle down check, so that will make me a job creator, as well.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And everyone knows that food magically appears on the shelves of food banks whenever the demand for them increases because the right wingers cut foods stamps

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/22/us...amps.html?_r=0
    I don't know what this 'magically' thing is about, but I know I contribute. How about you?
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    It is their job to calculate inflation and make the information publicly available, it is the real statistics. Please tell me how the government is lying about inflation?
    In the same manner they lie about nearly everything that has a political element. They pick and choose the facts that make them look best. I don't doubt that they have some explanation for their numbers but I do doubt that inflation is 1% I see more than that, not only in food and fuel but in the selling prices of products in the industry in which I work. Sorry, I do not automatically accept what the government tells me. In fact, I tend to doubt everything the government tells me. If you think inflation is that low, then you are lucky. You won't worry about prices like I do.

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I posted a list of things the right wingers want to do to provide food relief to the poor. Since you don't seem to get the sarcasm of my post, I will spell it out for you - Do the opposite of what the right wingers want to do.
    Your list, sarcastic or not, doesn't mean they will buy what is nutritionally better for them unless they are given the tools to help make better decisions.

    Why do you not want to provide those tools?
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    The U.S. Department of Agriculture predicts that food prices overall will rise about 3 percent in 2014. But some items on the menu -- chocolate, beef, bread and cereal -- will climb considerably higher.

    Why the rise in prices? Demand is skyrocketing to the point that it outstrips supply.
    Droughts out west causing crop damage, feed increases and water shortages affect grain and beef prices. Also ethanol raises the cost of corn and it's byproducts because of the arable land used for the biofuel.

    Clothing, houses, automobiles, stamps and Pay TV are all increasing in price.

    According to The Wall Street Journal, the average cable bill jumped from $48 in 2001 to $128 a month in 2011.

    Archer Daniels Midland, American global food-processing and commodities-trading corporation, operates more than 270 plants and 420 crop procurement facilities worldwide, where cereal grains and oilseeds are processed into products used in food, beverage, nutraceutical, industrial, and animal feed markets worldwide.

    ADM's revenues for fiscal year 2012 were US$89 billion. They were caught price fixing in the mid 1990's by the FBI.
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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    I don't know what this 'magically' thing is about, but I know I contribute. How about you?
    When the right cuts food stamps, the demand on food banks increase. Where do you think those food pantries are going to come up with more food to feed the increased # of poor people? Magic?

    But you don't think tax dollars should go to programs like Food Stamps and WIC

    Except when you get called out on your inane "Education will feed the poor"
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Food prices soar as incomes stand still

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post


    Your posts are full of crap
    Geez, sangha....I feel like you're holding back.
    Tell us what you really think.
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