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    Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial[W:336]

    Read more: Michael Dunn guilty on four counts, including attempted murder; mistrial declared on first-degree murder charge* - NY Daily News


    Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial


    Jacksonville, Florida (CNN) -- A jury on Saturday night convicted a Florida man on four charges related to his shooting into an SUV full of teenagers during an argument over loud music, but could not decide on the most serious charge -- murder.
    Michael Dunn was found guilty on four charges, including three for attempted second-degree murder, which could land him behind bars for decades. But they couldn't reach a verdict on the most significant charge: first-degree murder in the death of 17-year-old Jordan Davis.
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    Jury couldn't agree on first-degree murder in Dunn trial
    Fla. man guilty of lesser counts in 'loud music' shooting | Fox News


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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Yeah, I think they're right. And the state will probably re-try him on the 1st degree murder charge. I don't know how they can call it pre-meditated, frankly...I don't know, maybe they won't re-try him. It's a bit of a stretch.

    But he did wrong. He's a very bad example of a gun-owner. If he hadn't left? If there had been a gun? Maybe they'd have found it. The leaving is what did it for me. No reasonable person would leave the scene when they'd killed someone. If he was afraid and THAT'S why he left right away? Then you call the coppers immediately or go right to the station. Maybe he was BAC impaired.

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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    I'm still slack-jawed over the fact that they found the guy guilty of three counts of attempted murder on the guys he didn't manage to kill, but couldn't agree on a murder conviction on the guy he did manage to kill. WTF is up with that?? I can't imagine what the parents of that poor dead teenager must be going through right now, knowing that their son has still not received justice.

    ****ing Florida juries are all nutjobs.

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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yeah, I think they're right. And the state will probably re-try him on the 1st degree murder charge. I don't know how they can call it pre-meditated, frankly...I don't know, maybe they won't re-try him. It's a bit of a stretch.

    But he did wrong. He's a very bad example of a gun-owner. If he hadn't left? If there had been a gun? Maybe they'd have found it. The leaving is what did it for me. No reasonable person would leave the scene when they'd killed someone. If he was afraid and THAT'S why he left right away? Then you call the coppers immediately or go right to the station. Maybe he was BAC impaired.
    Well I do agree going for M1 seemed wrong but they did explain how it applies under law a couple times, I admit i didnt really understand the reasoning.

    M2 or manslaughter should have been EXTREMELY easy for they jury I have no clue why they didnt just charge him with the lesser unanimously.

    I cant see any member not thinking he wasnt guilty of murder 2 or manslughter



    Yes leaving was huge theres no way to justify

    leaving and going to your hotel.
    Ordering food.
    Taking out the dog.
    watching a movie.
    Going to sleep.
    Waking up and seeing on the news you killed a kid.
    Packing
    Drive 2.5 hours home and never call the police


    then theres ZERO corroborative evidence of a gun or death threats or the victim even getting out of the car

    then there the actual trail where he was proven to be a liar by his own girlfriend

    cant believe they were hung on a murder charge
    im still happy he is going to rot in prison for life though, its a victory for justice
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I'm still slack-jawed over the fact that they found the guy guilty of three counts of attempted murder on the guys he didn't manage to kill, but couldn't agree on a murder conviction on the guy he did manage to kill. WTF is up with that?? I can't imagine what the parents of that poor dead teenager must be going through right now, knowing that their son has still not received justice.

    ****ing Florida juries are all nutjobs.
    I agree it doesnt make sense


    I mean i cant imagine any jury not being able to agree on M1, M2 or manslughter

    if there was a juror stuck on m2 or manslaughter why didnt the other jurors just come down to that charge he is already going to prsison for life basically


    it makes me think that there was somebody stupid enough on that jury to think he was innocent.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    how on earth does this happen? How can a jury in heavens name not agree on a murder charge in such a case. Hopefully they can go back and do this trial again with a more sane jury.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    I think they reached to high with trying him for 1st degree murder, they should have went for trying him on 2nd degree murder or some lesser charge.The fact they didn't find a gun or pipe on the victims doesn't prove Dunn was lying since they had plenty of time to ditch those things while they were driving off(unless of course the police immediately did a thorough search after the victims were taken to the hospital). Comparing this case to the Zimmerman case is ****ing idiotic seeing how Zimmerman was getting his head bashed in.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    1.)I think they reached to high with trying him for 1st degree murder, they should have went for trying him on 2nd degree murder or some lesser charge.

    2.)The fact they didn't find a gun or pipe on the victims doesn't prove Dunn was lying since they had plenty of time to ditch those things while they were driving off(unless of course the police immediately did a thorough search after the victims were taken to the hospital).

    3.) Comparing this case to the Zimmerman case is ****ing idiotic seeing how Zimmerman was getting his head bashed in.
    1.) I agree and said so many times myself in many posts/threads.

    what seems weird though is, say they did have a juror stuck on M2 or manslaughter, why didnt the rest of the jurors just come down to that lesser charge? I mean he is basically going to jail for life anyway.

    this makes me think there was somebody mentally retarded enough on that jury to think he is innocent.

    2.) correct but since there was no corroborating evidence whatsoever, even evidence that supports he made it up it, his story became pretty meaningless and once he took the stand he proved him self to be a liar so that really did him in.

    3.) agree and dont care about Zimm
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    What is the definition of first degree murder in Florida? Am I right in my understanding that the act has to fit the definition provided by the state?
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    I wonder if Floridas 10-20-Life law will play into his sentencing.

    The law specifies exactly what categories of crimes fall under it, it mandates that offenders be sentenced to the law's maximum allowable extent for the committed felony, and that the mandatory sentences must be completed consecutively to any additional sentence an offender must serve.[2][6]
    The law's name comes from three main mandatory sentences: 1) producing a firearm during the commission of certain felonies mandates at least a 10-year prison sentence; 2) firing one mandates at least a 20-year prison sentence;
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    If so there is no chance of a concurrent sentencing.
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