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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    It's just dishonest to create a false sense of fishiness when there was none.
    Which is what you just did.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    I don't know what shenanigans Excon was trying to pull when he frequently talked about the driver calling his aunt who later came into the area.

    Tommy the driver had to call his aunt and she has to come for the following reasons:

    1. She is the registered owner of the Durango.

    2. Tommy wasn't the owner of the Durango and his name was not in the title.

    3. Since he was driving a vehicle that did not belong to him he had to call his aunt to verify to the police he did not steal the vehicle but had her permission to drive it.

    4. He got his aunt's car in a mess, he had to call her to let her know what happened.

    5. She had to come to the area because she had to verify to the police she owned the vehicle and she had to grant the police to search her vehicle and signed paper for the impoundment and get police report to file for her insurance claim.

    It's just dishonest to create a false sense of fishiness when there was none.
    Good Lord, why would one of the teens be under scrutiny for calling a family member, especially one that owned the car????

    That is just plain bizarre.

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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Good Lord, why would one of the teens be under scrutiny for calling a family member, especially one that owned the car????

    That is just plain bizarre.
    What is bizarre/suspicious is not immediately calling 911. But taking that time to do something else.
    What is bizarre/suspicious is not completing a call to 911 while your friend is dying, but instead calling your aunt.

    All that which dolphinocean presented was nothing but crap.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Given that a witnessed shooting just took place, I would have assumed one of the witnesses would have called.

    And it is bizarre for a shooter who thinks he was defending himself to avoid the police for so long - if you thought yourself righteous, you would run towards the police and explain your actions. But he needed time to sober up and think of a plausible excuse to shooting a carful of passengers.

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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    I am afraid you do not understand the concept of circumstantial evidence.

    Circumstantial Evidence legal definition of Circumstantial Evidence. Circumstantial Evidence synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

    There is no circumstantial evidence, nor any facts supporting the existence of the alleged shotgun, and the only witness who claimed to have seen the boys with 'something', then effectively retracted that evidence when questioned under oath.

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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Given that a witnessed shooting just took place, I would have assumed one of the witnesses would have called.

    And it is bizarre for a shooter who thinks he was defending himself to avoid the police for so long - if you thought yourself righteous, you would run towards the police and explain your actions. But he needed time to sober up and think of a plausible excuse to shooting a carful of passengers.
    While both groups experienced a traumatic event, they are not comparable, as one had an individual dying in the back seat, the other did not.
    They basically had to call 911. But didn't. (Hey let me hang up this call to 911 and instead call my aunt while my friend is dying. Yeah, that is a good idea. Not!)
    They took time and did something and then returned to the scene and called once it was safe for them to do so. Which is suspicious.

    And this crap you keep spewing about Dunn drinking is ridiculous. Four small drinks over the stated time period, for someone who is his height and weight, does not make one impaired.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    What is CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE?

    Evidence directed to the attending circumstances ; evidence which inferentially proves the principal fact by establishing a condition of surrounding and limiting circumstances, whose existence is a premise from which the existence of the principal fact may be concluded by necessary laws of reasoning. State v. Avery, 113 Mo. 475, 21 S. W. 193; Howard v. State, 34 Ark. 433; State v. Evans, 1 Marvel (Del.) 477, 41 Atl. 136; Comm. v. Webster, 5 Cush. (Mass.) 319, 52 Am. Dec. 711; Gardner v. Preston, 2 Day (Conn.) 205. 2 Am. Dec. 91; State v. Miller, 9 Houst. (Del.) 564, 32 Atl. 137. When the existence of any fact is attested by witnesses, as having come under the cognizance of their senses, or is stated in documents, the genuineness and veracity of which there seems no reason to question, the evidence of that fact is said to be direct or positive. When, on the contrary, the existence of the principal fact is only inferred from one or more circumstances which have been established directly, the evidence is said to be circumstantial. And when the existence of the principal fact does not follow from the evidentiary facts as a necessary consequence of the law of nature, but is deduced from them by a process of probable reasoning, the evidence and proof are said to be presumptive. Best, Pres. 240; Id. 12. All presumptive evidence is circumstantial, because necessarily derived from or made up of circumstances, but all circumstantial evidence is not presumptive, that is, it does not operate in the way of presumption, being sometimes of a higher grade, and lending to necessary conclusions, instead of probable ones. Burrill. CIRCUMSTANTIBUS, TALES DE. See TALES.

    Law Dictionary: What is CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE? definition of CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE (Black's Law Dictionary)


    What is CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE? definition of CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE (Black's Law Dictionary)


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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    While both groups experienced a traumatic event, they are not comparable, as one had an individual dying in the back seat, the other did not.
    They basically had to call 911. But didn't. (Hey let me hang up this call to 911 and instead call my aunt while my friend is dying. Yeah, that is a good idea. Not!)
    They took time and did something and then returned to the scene and called once it was safe for them to do so. Which is suspicious.

    And this crap you keep spewing about Dunn drinking is ridiculous. Four small drinks over the stated time period, for someone who is his height and weight, does not make one impaired.
    I think it would look better for Dunn if he did make his idiotic criminal decisions if he was impaired, don't you?

    You do not think that he thought someone called for the car that was shot to hell?

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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    What is bizarre/suspicious is not immediately calling 911. But taking that time to do something else.
    Yes, Dunn's behavior when he didn't call 911 is certainly suspicious.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Yes, Dunn's behavior when he didn't call 911 is certainly suspicious.
    No. It simply isn't.
    But Davis's friends actions in failing to immediately call as he lay dying was.
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