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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Yeah i don't understand the hung on the M1, M2 or manslaughter either. the attempted murder was easier as he was firing at people not involved in the confrontation.

    however the prosecution has said they are going for a retrial. that means a new jury pool. that problem is they will have to probably move it as any body in that area is already tainted.
    finding a clean pool is going to be difficult.

    i agree if i have a shotgun and someone is shooting at me i am blowing his head off with it. not running away or trying to get away.
    there was no gun. he made it up just like he made up telling his wife there was a gun when he didn't.

    the guy is a hot head.

    he has at least a 20 year minimum sentence for what he was charged for.

    we will see what happens at the retrial. yes i agree FL juries are screwed up i think it is the water. the water here is bad in most places.

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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    how on earth does this happen? How can a jury in heavens name not agree on a murder charge in such a case. Hopefully they can go back and do this trial again with a more sane jury.
    The most obvious reason would be, that to some, it wasn't murder, or even manslaughter, but a guy acting in self defense.





    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    If you had a shotgun in your car and somebody had just killed your buddy and now is just standing there shooting at you what would you do with a powerful shotgun? I would have blasted his ass in self defense to save myself.
    There was no shotgun.
    Not if the person next to the weapon wasn't inclined to do so.
    Not if it wasn't loaded.
    And not if it was not immediately accessible. Such as underneath the guy who was shot, dropped to the floor out of reach, or even if it had became jammed under the seat.
    So what you suggest shouldn't even be a consideration.

    And btw, he wasn't dead at that time. He died later.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Not if the person next to the weapon wasn't inclined to do so.
    Not if it wasn't loaded.
    And not if it was not immediately accessible. Such as underneath the guy who was shot or had became jammed under the seat.
    So what you suggest shouldn't even be a consideration.
    Total bs as usual.

    If I was being shot at by someone who just killed my buddy, I guarantee you I could lift up a sherman tank to get it out and blast him.

    There was never a shotgun. You just fell for another Dunn lie.

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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The most obvious reason would be, that to some, it wasn't murder, or even manslaughter, but a guy acting in self defense.
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    Except they did find him guilty of attempted murder of the other people. It's a bit weird.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Total bs as usual.

    If I was being shot at by someone who just killed my buddy, I guarantee you I could lift up a sherman tank to get it out and blast him.

    There was never a shotgun. You just fell for another Dunn lie.
    Yes your answer is bs.
    And apparently you fell for a lie from Davis's friends.
    Because evidence suggests that there was a weapon and that it had was stashed.
    And then with the driver contacting his aunt, and her later coming into the area, is highly suspicious.


    He hadn't just killed his buddy. He died later.
    So is you concern on your own safety (ducking) as you are forced to retreat?
    On the dying person as you are forced to retreat?
    Or in firing back?

    The point being, is you have no idea if there was one or not.
    You have no idea what could or couldn't be done, or if it could have been used to return fire at all, as you suggest.
    You have no idea if the person was inclined to return fire.
    And as such, your assertion is ridiculous, and nothing more than your own pompous bravado.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I'm still slack-jawed over the fact that they found the guy guilty of three counts of attempted murder on the guys he didn't manage to kill, but couldn't agree on a murder conviction on the guy he did manage to kill. WTF is up with that?? I can't imagine what the parents of that poor dead teenager must be going through right now, knowing that their son has still not received justice.

    ****ing Florida juries are all nutjobs.
    Yep. This was a slam dunk. And they had the option of convicting on 2nd degree murder but no. Florida just can't get anything right: from elections, to criminal justice.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Yeah i don't understand the hung on the M1, M2 or manslaughter either. the attempted murder was easier as he was firing at people not involved in the confrontation.

    however the prosecution has said they are going for a retrial. that means a new jury pool. that problem is they will have to probably move it as any body in that area is already tainted.
    finding a clean pool is going to be difficult.

    i agree if i have a shotgun and someone is shooting at me i am blowing his head off with it. not running away or trying to get away.
    there was no gun. he made it up just like he made up telling his wife there was a gun when he didn't.

    the guy is a hot head.

    he has at least a 20 year minimum sentence for what he was charged for.

    we will see what happens at the retrial. yes i agree FL juries are screwed up i think it is the water. the water here is bad in most places.
    yep
    there must of been huge moron on that jury that doesnt understand law and facts


    there isnt one piece of corroborative evidence or forensics that supports self defense or Dunns actions, not one. He even proved himself to be a liar during the trial and destroyed his credibility.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Except they did find him guilty of attempted murder of the other people. It's a bit weird.
    I don't see that as weird.
    They were given the law and decided that his continuing to shoot was unlawful and amounted to attempted murder.
    The problem here would be with the instructions given.

    So let me say this again for everyone's benefit.
    If he is later found not guilty and/or given immunity for responding to an immanent threat with deadly force, this finding by the jury can not stand.
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Yep. This was a slam dunk. And they had the option of convicting on 2nd degree murder but no. Florida just can't get anything right: from elections, to criminal justice.
    doesnt matter he is going to prison for a long time and the next inches of shotgun that only he sees will be going in his tailpipe! LMAO
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    Re: Dunn convicted of attempted murder; hung jury on murder in 'loud-music' trial

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    doesnt matter he is going to prison for a long time and the next inches of shotgun that only he sees will be going in his tailpipe! LMAO
    actually the prosecution is going for a retrial. that will mean a new jury pool. so we will see if they can get a conviction out of that crowd.
    yep it is hard to put someone in prison for murder 1, but i figured manslaughter at least.

    we won't know who held out on the murder charges but it was a split jury for sure. he will be tried again and i think another jury will find him guilty.

    If he is later found not guilty and/or given immunity for responding to an immanent threat with deadly force, this finding by the jury can not stand.
    this is what you still don't understand.

    Murder 1 was for davis.
    the other 3 attempted murders were for the 3 boys in the car that were of no threat to dunn.
    the discharge of a gun into a occupied vehicle was for the 3 boys that were no threat to dunn.

    they are all independent charges and they will stand as guilty even if the murder charge doesn't go through. you cannot just randomly shoot at innocent people and not be held responsible. more so when those innocent people are driving away.

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