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‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

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mac said:
Not in the US, at least not anymore. According to the relevant statistics.
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Feel free to cite your claims. Until then, I'll just go with the common knowledge that white on black race-based crimes occur every day in the US.
 
ecofarm said:
Feel free to cite your claims. Until then, I'll just go with the common knowledge that white on black race-based crimes occur every day in the US.
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Well, you're free to live in ignorance. The statistics on violent crime are readily google-able. Knock yourself out.
 
mac said:
Well, you're free to live in ignorance. The statistics on violent crime are readily google-able. Knock yourself out.
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Pun intended?
 
mac said:
Well, you're free to live in ignorance. The statistics on violent crime are readily google-able. Knock yourself out.
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In those statistics, you will find white on black race-based violence. You will find kkk, Aryan, Hammerskin and other such groups committing ORGANIZED violence in big cities and small towns, in prisons and schools, every single day.



Of course, random scumbags such as those in the OP certainly justify organized violence against blacks, don't they? I mean, after all... white people are under daily assault from the black mongrels and we never do anything wrong! It's only right if we fight back... right?? We need to organize ourselves and strike back at the black scourge!

:roll: I can't believe you'd fall for that common racist rhetoric.

It's the first call to violence that every inbred redneck teaches their half-wit son. And their idiot son goes through life repeating it, without ever even knowing that it is designed rhetoric, using emotional stories and the standard media bias claim to produce specific results.




And so we get what we've got here (the OP). Some people ya just can't reach. I don't like it any better than you do.
 
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ecofarm said:
In those statistics, you will find white on black race-based violence. You will find kkk, Aryan, Hammerskin and other such groups committing ORGANIZED violence in big cities and small towns, in prisons and schools, every single day.



Of course, random scumbags such as those in the OP certainly justify organized violence against blacks, don't they? I mean, after all... white people are under daily assault from the black mongrels and we never do anything wrong! It's only right if we fight back... right?? We need to organize ourselves and strike back at the black scourge!

:roll: I can't believe you'd fall for that common racist rhetoric.

It's the first call to violence that every inbred redneck teaches their half-wit son. And their idiot son goes through life repeating it, without ever even knowing that it is designed rhetoric, using emotional stories and the standard media bias claim to produce specific results.




And so we get what we've got here (the OP). Some people ya just can't reach. I don't like it any better than you do.
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You're stuck in the past. In today's America, a black male's greatest fear (from violence) is another black male. And for every Trayvon case in America, there 3-4 Black on white crimes that go un-sensationalized, and when reported...the offender's race is often omitted.

All racial crime is rediculous, but it's not one sided.
 
mac said:
You're stuck in the past. In today's America, a black male's greatest fear (from violence) is another black male. And for every Trayvon case in America, there 3-4 Black on white crimes that go un-sensationalized, and when reported...the offender's race is often omitted.

All racial crime is rediculous, but it's not one sided.
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I don't think you understand the rhetoric of this call to violence. You're just stuck in talking points and ignoring the obvious.
 
ecofarm said:
I don't think you understand the rhetoric of this call to violence. You're just stuck in talking points and ignoring the obvious.
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There is no "call to violence". But one need not ignore reality to avoid violence. By ignoring what's really going on in America, we help perpetuate the violence.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/black-america-2013_n_3639934.html
"First, about the alleged "war on black men." The argument here is that laws like Florida's "Stand Your Ground" are encouraging white vigilantism, and moving white people to shoot and kill black people at the slightest provocation. But there just isn't any data to support the contention. Black homicides have been falling since the mid-1990s (as have all homicides). Moreover, according to a 2005 Bureau of Justice Statistics report, more than 90 percent of black murder victims are killed by other black people. And if we look at interracial murder, there are about twice as many black-on-white murders as the other way around, and that ratio has held steady for decades."
 
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mac said:
There is no "call to violence". But one need not ignore reality to avoid violence. By ignoring what's really going on in America, we help perpetuate the violence.
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I'm not going to explain it to you again, Mac.

Have a nice day.
 
Hatuey said:
That is only true if you ignore actual crime statistics:

Hatuey said:
FBI — Annual Hate Crimes Report Released

FBI — FBI Releases 2010 Hate Crime Statistics
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Whites are responsible for 60% of racially based crimes while blacks make up 20% of crime against other groups.
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With Whites being roughly 72.4 % of the US population, and
Blacks (AA) being roughly 12.6 % of the population;
Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It seems that by proportion, whites commit far less hate crimes than blacks.


Go figure, huh?
 
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Excon said:
And with Whites being roughly 72.4 % of the US population, and
Blacks (AA) being roughly 12.6 % of the population,
It seems that by proportion, whites commit far less hate crimes than blacks.


Go figure, huh?
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I would be willing to bet that whites are significantly more likely than blacks to be CHARGED with a hate crime in the first place. A white attacks a black and racial motivation is presumed. No such automatic presumption exists in black on white crime.
 
mac said:
Again, you're free to live in ignorance.

Have a nice day, as well.
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You are wrong to presume I am ignorant. I know of the statistics you speak. I know them just a well as you do.

And they have nothing to do with the fact that the OP is, without a doubt, a standard-form call to violence. While Sawyer might not know what he was doing, it's apparent to anyone of sufficient intellectual capacity.
 
ecofarm said:
You are wrong to presume I am ignorant. I know of the statistics you speak. I know them just a well as you do.

And they have nothing to do with the fact that the OP is, without a doubt, a standard-form call to violence. While Sawyer might not know what he was doing, it's apparent to anyone of sufficient intellectual capacity.
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I didn't read his post as a call to violence at all. Pointing out unequal application of the law and unequal treatment of criminal acts based upon the color of a persons skin is EXACTLY what people should do when they notice this or any other kind of hypocrisy.
 
ecofarm said:
Go figure? It's called socioeconomics. One would think an adult would have at least heard of the term.
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No. What was provided were stats.
You are trying to excuse the behavior those stats represent by saying it is socioeconomic.
Regardless of your argument of socioeconomic, which could be considered when attempting to prevent crime, once the crime happens you deal with it as a crime. Not make excuses for it.

And we can see where we are at by the stats.
 
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ecofarm said:
And they have nothing to do with the fact that the OP is, without a doubt, a standard-form call to violence.
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Seeing what appears to be a call for more accurate reporting, as a call to violence, is pretty weird.
 
ecofarm said:
You are wrong to presume I am ignorant. I know of the statistics you speak. I know them just a well as you do.

And they have nothing to do with the fact that the OP is, without a doubt, a standard-form call to violence. While Sawyer might not know what he was doing, it's apparent to anyone of sufficient intellectual capacity.
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What I took from the OP is America's (at least it's media) tendency to ignore reality when it comes to black on white racially motivated crime. I'm further bemused by the idea that acknowledging one fact somehow detracts from another fact. We do not dilute the horror of crimes of the past by correctly assessing the crimes of the present, nor are crimes of the past any excuse for crimes of the present.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm not surprised that you support the OP.
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Not sure what that is supposed to mean, but if you posted a better counter argument I would likely support you. But so far, you haven't.
 
Excon said:
No. What was provided was stats.
You are trying to excuse the behavior those stats represent by saying it is socioeconomic.
Regardless of your argument of socioeconomic, which could be considered when attempting to prevent crime, once the crime happens you deal with it as a crime. Not make excuses for it.

And we can see where we are at by the stats.
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When blacks commit this type of crime its socioeconomics. (Thus they get a pass) When whites commit this type of crime its a hate crime. That is why hate crime statistics are irrelevant.
 
Fletch said:
Not sure what that is supposed to mean, but if you posted a better counter argument I would likely support you. But so far, you haven't.
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I've explained things clearly and you either refuse to see it or are incapable. Your claim of being willing is either BS or simply beyond your capacity.
 
Fletch said:
When blacks commit this type of crime its socioeconomics. (Thus they get a pass) When whites commit this type of crime its a hate crime. That is why hate crime statistics are irrelevant.
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You obviously do not understand hate crime legislation. You rail against it in the typical ignorant racist way.
 
mac said:
What I took from the OP is America's (at least it's media) tendency to ignore reality when it comes to black on white racially motivated crime.
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You are the one ignoring reality and substituting conspiracy theory that intends to support violence against blacks. You're ignorant of the context, the rhetoric and the obvious underlying claims.


Combining emotionally charged stories such as this, with claims that whites never do anything to blacks, is a standard-form call to violence employed in every racist group.

There's a reason why stories about elderly vets being abused are combined with this CT claim. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out... it incites violence.
 
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