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‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

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Two things about this strike me. First off if it was a group of white kids saying knock that nigger out" it would be wall to wall coverage on network news. Second thing is even in this local report the word "hate crime" never comes up. Go figure.

CLEVELAND, Ohio (CBS Cleveland) - Cleveland authorities have made several arrests following the mob beating of a disabled Army veteran by a group of teenagers.
Last Friday, the victim, Matthew Robinson, was surrounded by between six and eight teenagers while riding the RTA Healthline. Robinson told WOIO that he was attacked by the teens, then robbed of his possessions.
During the attack, the teens made several derogatory remarks about Robinson.
“What they were saying was, ‘Knock that boy out!’ ‘White boy.’ ‘Cracker,’” he was quoted as saying about the incident. “They were saying, ‘Knock that white boy out.’”


‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet « CBS Cleveland

I make note that the news left out the fact that the assailants were all black, or have I misunderstood something. It is obviously a hate crime and hate crimes are wrong no matter who's doing the hating.
 
No argument there. But then again I have never viewed conformity with the masses as a virtue.






Guess What? Neither have I.

That's one of the reasons why I'm a strong supporter of the 1st Amendment.

I may not agree with what someone says, but I'll always defend their right to say it.




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." Tommy Smothers
 
That is absolute crap.

It's reported all the time.

It's the subject of thousands of hours of hollywood movies and TV shows.

You are by and large the most dishonest person in this sites history, it's one thing to be stupid, it's another to be a liar.

Where is the lie? The MSM reports on crimes they choose to highlight, such as the Zimmerman/Martin case, with Zimmerman has become something of a celebrity, while dozens of other people are being murdered every day. Of course these others will remain nameless and faceless because they don't easily fit into the story the media wants to tell.

Justice Clarence Thomas recently said that people are more race conscious than they were in the 60's, and stories which exploit Black, White and Hispanic differences are certainly making make it worse. Clarence Thomas: North liberals more racist than southerners | The Daily Caller
 
Guess What? Neither have I.

That's one of the reasons why I'm a strong supporter of the 1st Amendment.

I may not agree with what someone says, but I'll always defend their right to say it.




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." Tommy Smothers

Great. Why not defend this guy then. A Man Alone :: SteynOnline

I hope you protected that Florida preacher as well, or the guy who made the anti Muslim movie who caused the deaths in Benghazi.
 
I think the hate crime designation in any direction is completely stupid. The crime is the crime is the crime. One's intent should be handled in the sentencing phase and not be a specific charge. Y'all get your panties all in a wad about which race "deserves" hate crime status when they are attacked, and instead I simply ask is it really a worse crime when someone of (insert race here) beats a (insert other race here) than when someone beats his wife, kids, parents? Anytime a crime of violence is directed at an individual because of who that individual is, is a crime of hate, and yet domestic abuse, child abuse, even animal abuse are not counted as hate crimes. I always thought that any law that didn't include at the very least domestic and child abuse as hate crimes, shows a true lack of fair application.

That all said. I agree that anyone who can't see the difference between a hate crime where the crime is instigated pretty much solely because of race, creed, sexual preference, gender, etc. and a crime where the intent is to rob, hijack, mug, burgle during which slurs are uttered.... well, the dumbing down of conservatives pretty much covers that.
 
I was thinking that very thing as I read the OP - how is it being ignored if it's being reported??

Think a little more. A little deeper. It may hurt but go for it. Really though you didn't think at all, you had a liberal knee jerk reaction.
 
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I do want to apologize for one thing on this thread though. The fact that a disabled vet was attacked by teenage thugs no matter what the races involved are just blows me away and that should have been my first comment on this.. WTF is this country coming to.
 
I'm gonna try that again

This a truly astounding and bizarre way to view the world.
Right!
That post from Fletch had so much spin on it I got dizzy just reading it.

The left gives blacks a pass for this sort of behavior for two reasons 1) They are afraid of black people and don't want to make them angry. 2) They have built up victimhood fence around blacks to buy their political loyalty that they don't want to shatter it. It would, of course, be in the overall best interest of blacks for to have this sort of behavior stigmatized, but the left really isn't interested in improving the lot of blacks in this country.
 
I think the hate crime designation in any direction is completely stupid. The crime is the crime is the crime. One's intent should be handled in the sentencing phase and not be a specific charge.

Intent has always been considered a factor in the charging phase of a prosecution. For example, it's the basic difference between murder and manslaughter

Furthermore, "hate crimes" aren't separate charges. They are, exactly as you suggest, something increases the sentence and does not change the underlying charging statute
 
That's BS. Such crimes are committed by whites against blacks almost every day and we rarely see considerable news coverage.

Be real.

Not in the US, at least not anymore. According to the relevant statistics.
 
Intent has always been considered a factor in the charging phase of a prosecution. For example, it's the basic difference between murder and manslaughter

Furthermore, "hate crimes" aren't separate charges. They are, exactly as you suggest, something increases the sentence and does not change the underlying charging statute

I see. Evenso, I think the hate crime issue isn't being properly addressed if it isn't being leveled against domestic and child abuse. Nothing is more personally intended, imo, than those two. Some may be equal, but not more.
 
Yeah... I noticed your post .. after my last post "comparatively true"

While your post doesn't seem as delineated as I recall reading.. I will investigate later and if there is a difference I'll post and cite.... might be interesting.. or maybe I'm not correct.

As an aside.. I've seen and maybe you also seemingly conflicting gov. reports... I'll check later

Thom Paine

I will wait.

Hatuey.
 
Only in the delusional world of the right wing does a story of black against white crime being reported by the media demonstrate that the media ignores black against white crime

The knockout game perps when caught are always arrested and charged, and basically convicted every time too.

So I'm not sure what else right wingers want.

Maybe they want back the old days of lynch mobs?
 
I don't know if it's purposeful racial bias on the part of the media and I don't mean to belittle violent crimes no matter who commits the act, but I think the main reason Black on White crime isn't so widely reported is because it just doesn't happen as often and certainly not in such violent fashion. Consider this county's 238 year history of racial violence and injustice and the nature of the crimes committed then it puts a simple case of assault and battery into perspective.

Now, had the White guy been pistol whipped and robbed or shot and killed while utterring racial slurred, then you have a story the media couldn't ignore because it would certainly meet White hate crime status some folks here are clearly looking for.
 
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I do want to apologize for one thing on this thread though. The fact that a disabled vet was attacked by teenage thugs no matter what the races involved are just blows me away and that should have been my first comment on this.. WTF is this country coming to.

They knew beforehand that he was a disabled vet?
 
Two things about this strike me. First off if it was a group of white kids saying knock that nigger out" it would be wall to wall coverage on network news. Second thing is even in this local report the word "hate crime" never comes up. Go figure.

CLEVELAND, Ohio (CBS Cleveland) - Cleveland authorities have made several arrests following the mob beating of a disabled Army veteran by a group of teenagers.
Last Friday, the victim, Matthew Robinson, was surrounded by between six and eight teenagers while riding the RTA Healthline. Robinson told WOIO that he was attacked by the teens, then robbed of his possessions.
During the attack, the teens made several derogatory remarks about Robinson.
“What they were saying was, ‘Knock that boy out!’ ‘White boy.’ ‘Cracker,’” he was quoted as saying about the incident. “They were saying, ‘Knock that white boy out.’”


‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet « CBS Cleveland

Why am I not surprised that you started this thread?
 
Two things about this strike me. First off if it was a group of white kids saying knock that nigger out" it would be wall to wall coverage on network news. Second thing is even in this local report the word "hate crime" never comes up. Go figure.

Argument By Hypothetical.
 
The left gives blacks a pass for this sort of behavior for two reasons 1) They are afraid of black people and don't want to make them angry. 2) They have built up victimhood fence around blacks to buy their political loyalty that they don't want to shatter it. It would, of course, be in the overall best interest of blacks for to have this sort of behavior stigmatized, but the left really isn't interested in improving the lot of blacks in this country.
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1. Black on white crimes are not covered in the media, but white on black crimes are headlines every single time.
2. Therefore, white on black crimes have only occurred when we see national headlines.
3. Therefore, white on black crimes are rare, as such things only appear in national news on rare occasions.

That IS the gist of your argument. That it is presented in the framework of black on white crime is no surprise, given this underlying claim.


Denying this is intellectually dishonest or inept.

Now hang on a sec. It could be both.
 
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