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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I'm talking about the actual definition of the word "racism".
    You're talking about an understanding limited to PART OF the definition by way of ignorance and a lack of education.

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're talking about an understanding limited to PART OF the definition by way of ignorance and a lack of education.
    Be quiet, you've made an idiot out of yourself enough by now. Take a rest.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You obviously then do not understand how hate crime legislation works. If they had attacked 10 disabled vets without mentioning they were in a wheelchair would that have been a hate crime? Yes. Regardless of whether or not disability based language was used. If they had attacked 10 white people without mentioning their race, would that have been a hate crime? Yes. Your ignorance on this subject is actually really entertaining. Tell us, what is the standard of proof for a hate crime? If you say "Whether the attacker is black or not" you'll look foolish simply due to statistics on sentencing for hate crime. Why don't you do us all a favor and scuttle off.
    Ten disabled vets in wheel chairs were not attacked. Your attempt to obfuscate is a failure. One white vet in a wheel chair was attacked by black thugs. In the process of the attack he was verbally attacked for his race. "Just the facts mam".

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Be quiet, you've made an idiot out of yourself enough by now. Take a rest.
    Oh noes! Is NWO a grumpy little boy now? You were very happy I was around a minute ago. So sad. Go ask mommy if she'll read the dictionary with you. And don't forget to mention these mood swings to your shrink.

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Oh noes! Is NWO a grumpy little boy now? So sad. Go ask mommy if she'll read the dictionary with you.
    No, really: take a knee and pull security, buddy. You couldn't even correctly read a simple sentence of mine, this isn't your day.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    2 is indeed dependent on 1. There is no indication that 1 is dependent on 2, however.

    The first alludes to a desire to rule, not the reality of rule. And even then, it's hedged with "usually".

    Well, yes. It is most commonly used. Because words have meaning.

    So if someone asks "Can black people be racist?" and I didn't know what the word meant, I would first look up racism ("a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others") then I would look up racism, since that's where it points me. I would read the first one and think "I've heard of some black people believing that "inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement" and whether or not it has to do with "usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others" doesn't really matter.

    That'd be enough on its own to answer "Yes, black people can be racist" but continuing on I'd probably find (in the US) that the second definition probably doesn't apply (although there are some cases where it conceivably could). Then I'd read the third definition, see that it applied, and it would be very clear. The only way someone can say that black people can't be racist is if they restrict the definition of the word for whatever reason, something you've already said is "nonsense".

    This isn't really even a debate, although ecofarm's attempt certainly made for some great fun.
    You're shifting your argument with ecofarm about racism to something about mine. I've stated that racism is power based and the dictionary agrees with me even with its weak definitions of the term. Words having standard definitions for the layman are irrelevant to me. A white guy calling somebody a chink, nigger, etc. is racialist and not racist. A black guy deciding not to hire white people? Racist. This incident? (Barring the presence of more assaults) a single-bias racialist incident not a full blown racist situation where the economics, culture or social dynamics of the individual will be irreparably changed.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You just called me a weirdo and a liar. And then you say you don't have to call names. Apparently, your problem with reading goes beyond definitions. You can't even read your own posts!
    Actually, he just called you a weirdo, he just implicated that you're also lying.

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Ten disabled vets in wheel chairs were not attacked. Your attempt to obfuscate is a failure. One white vet in a wheel chair was attacked by black thugs. In the process of the attack he was verbally attacked for his race. "Just the facts mam".
    You either did not understand what I wrote or you do not have the ability to reply to it. Which is it? I explained that even with the usage of language this does not constitute a case of racism.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're shifting your argument with ecofarm about racism to something about mine. I've stated that racism is power based
    But it's not solely power based. And people who don't have institutionalized power (ie, black people in the US) can still "be racist". That's my point.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Keep apologizin' for whitey. I'm sure the check's in the mail.
    Maybe just a little racism showing here.

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