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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think it's silly to say that you don't want to recognize people according to "race" yet to support these kinds of laws which are based on nothing but race. It just seems to much like thought control to me. Like the government says that you are NOT allowed to hate and if you, you will be punished for feeling that emotion. Of course no one likes racism, but people should be punished for their ACTIONS and not for their thoughts. I don't have an issue with it being brought in the process of trial because it would be related to a motive, but I just don't agree with specifically punishment for and making an emotion into a crime. I don't see an actual NEED for it besides appeasement.
    My biggest issue has to do with the way this dogma actually creates racists. Most people can see through dogmatic b.s. on at least some level, even if they cannot articulate it well, and supporting double standards only increases the sort of resentment that is stirred when these double standards are institutionalized as they are. These reactive attitudes are only create more of what they are reacting to when they become so commonplace that they are part of the system.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Why would I slink away from your meltdown? Got some capslock for us?
    Probably because of this:

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    eco, tell me about that time I said I wouldn't call people names! lol tell me again, dude! Tell me about that time you ignored two definitions because you didn't like them. Or about that time you implied I was a white bigot. Or that time you lied about what I thought. Come on, please. This is too rich.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Perhaps if you had the slightest understanding of hate crime legislation, you wouldn't spew this garbage. By your "reasoning" there should be no first or second degree murder charges, there should only be manslaughter for everything - because you think considering motive is executing thought crime.

    Maybe some day you will understand that hate crime legislation is basically anti-terrorism legislation. The accused must be engaged in basically terrorism to be charged.
    Absolutely not. Degrees and levels of murder are completely different than punishment for "hating." Terrorism is specifically a crime to create mayhem. That is NOT the case with a lot of crimes that you might consider a "hate" crime. You are operating on the PREMISE that a crime committed based on "hate" of a particular race would cause terror and fear among that particular ethnic group. Terrorist crimes also have other great impacts on a society in general such as economical issues.

    So then you must agree that rape would be a "hate" crime against women, and child molestation would be a hate crime against children. You cannot say these specific crimes are not based on feelings of "hate" or some other derogatory emotion towards females or children. What about when a person specifically targets a rich person? Maybe that person hates rich people?

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Probably because of this:
    I think we're all accustomed to your delusional claims of victory and calling others liars. None of us are surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    My biggest issue has to do with the way this dogma actually creates racists.
    This is absolutely correct. Black people don't need a dude running around telling people that he thinks it's impossible for blacks to racist. It's factually incorrect, one, and just creates more friction than it solves, two.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think we're all accustomed to your delusional claims of victory and calling others liars. None of us are surprised.
    Oh, so the things I said didn't happen? lol Did you forget everyone can read what you post? It's still there. lol
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    This is absolutely correct. Black people don't need a dude running around telling people that he thinks it's impossible for blacks to racist. It's factually incorrect, one, and just creates more friction than it solves, two.
    The sociology department disagrees, kid.

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The sociology department disagrees, kid.
    The dictionary disagrees, son.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think it's silly to say that you don't want to recognize people according to "race" yet to support these kinds of laws which are based on nothing but race. It just seems to much like thought control to me. Like the government says that you are NOT allowed to hate and if you, you will be punished for feeling that emotion. Of course no one likes racism, but people should be punished for their ACTIONS and not for their thoughts. I don't have an issue with it being brought in the process of trial because it would be related to a motive, but I just don't agree with specifically punishment for and making an emotion into a crime. I don't see an actual NEED for it besides appeasement.
    Who's been punished for hating black people?
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    The dictionary disagrees, son.
    No it doesn't. You read it wrong.

    I'm quite sure the sociology department has a dictionary too. And they say you're full of crap.

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