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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're the one who cannot read definitions. You can spam them pretty well, but you sure as hell can't read them.
    I haven't kicked someone this hard in the teeth in some time. You want only one definition of the word to apply, so you ignore the others, you imply anyone who disagrees with you is racist against black people, and then lie about what they said and can't even admit it. This is fantastic. Thank you for being...you.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The problem here, Hatuey, is twofold. For starters, relying on macro to define micro just doesn't cut it because it does not truly assess who has power and who doesn't. It ASSUMES a person of color has no power even if they do. This assumption that a black CEO, school administrator or politician has no power to implement racist systems simply because other black people don't is fallacious as all get up. These blanket statements that blacks (I/e all blacks) cannot be racist because SOME blacks do not have power or have faced discrimination historically are idiotic.
    We're talking sociology, not individuals!

    The second problem has to do with perception, and the way memes are transmitted. This is more subtle, of course, but when an entire system treats one group differently than it does another to the point that one cannot be criticized, then this racialism BECOMES racist by very nature of the intimidating weight of the collective application of these memes. THat is very much a power structure, even if it is less overt than the "whites only" signs of days gone by.
    This is bull****. No one is saying to avoid criticism of black bigots. We (I guess two of us) ARE saying that the difference between bigotry by the majority and minority must be recognized in a sociological discussion.

    Just hold everybody to the same effing standard if you really want to eliminate racism is what I say.
    Everyone can be held to the same standards and we can still recognize the difference between bigotry with power and pissing in the wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    So you're saying that it's subjective.
    Not at all, I'm saying it's extremely objective. Subjective is deciding that events are racist because they fit 1/3rd of your dictionary definition while others which do not fit those simplistic standards are not. If we were to go by new-era dictionary definitions of racism, Neo-Nationalists would not fit the mold of racist and yet a white guy who doesn't like black people would. When we know, in reality, that's not the case at all.

    Remember: black people in the 60s weren't angry about being called niggers. They were angry about the social ramifications (i.e. racist policies) of racialist views.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Oh really? Then why am I almost the only person on my side? While you sit over there, safely among the idiots.

    I'm the one buckin' the system here, not you. You have every moron on this board with you. I stand virtually alone.
    You are appealing to authority big time. I am not.

    and this guilt by association is quite beneath you, my friend. If you cannot see the differences between what I say and what many on the far right say, that has more to do with your inability to distinguish than it does my somehow having thrown in my lot. As my original statement stands -- I see the racism from the hard right every bit as much as I see what you are selling. It's just that you reacted to my having taken a middle ground instead of one of the racists.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Not at all, I'm saying it's extremely objective. Subjective is deciding that events are racist because they fit 1/3rd of your dictionary definition while others which do not fit those simplistic standards are not. If we were to go by new-era dictionary definitions of racism, Neo-Nationalists would not fit the mold of racist and yet a white guy who doesn't like black people would. When we know, in reality, that's not the case at all.

    Remember: black people in the 60s weren't angry about being called niggers. They were angry about the social ramifications (i.e. racist policies) of racialist views.
    I don't need you to tell me what black people were angry about. I'm just telling you that black people can be racist. And if you want to "restrict definitions" to ignore that, that's on you. Doesn't do black people any good though, I'll tell you that.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I haven't kicked someone this hard in the teeth in some time.
    That's delusional. You spazzed out and failed to understand even the most basic sociology. Did you graduate high school, how old are you?

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    This is bull****. No one is saying to avoid criticism of black bigots. We (I guess two of us) ARE saying that the difference between bigotry by the majority and minority must be recognized in a sociological discussion.
    You also said that black people can't be racist. And when that simple statement was corrected, you started ignoring definitions of words you didn't like, lying about what people said, and implying that people that disagreed with you were racist themselves. Childish.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I'm just telling you that black people can be racist.
    And I'm telling you that's uneducated idiocy and it serves white bigots (actual racists, with institutional power).

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's delusional. You spazzed out and failed to understand even the most basic sociology. Did you graduate high school, how old are you?
    You ignore definitions you don't like, lie, and claim people are racist. Did you want to admit to being a liar?
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    And I'm telling you that's uneducated idiocy and it serves white bigots (actual racists, with institutional power).
    You ignore definitions of words that you don't like, so I don't think anyone is actually fooled by you.
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