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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    When the media omits key facts, it is evidence of such. The media falls all over itself pointing out the races of the involved when there is a white aggressor. When there is a black aggressor, the race of the perpetrator goes unmentioned. The media sensationalizes white on black crime and downplays the opposite.
    In this case, did the media omit key facts?

    I ask because it doesn't seem that way to me but maybe I missed something
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Poverty is the root cause of most ignorance. Ignorance is the root cause of hate.
    What the statistics show is that for violent crime blacks are 7X to 8X more likely to commit violent crime than whites yet for "hate crime" that difference does not show up. The premise of the OP, supported by your socioeconomic theory as well, is that is not because it does not occur but simply because it is not (as often) charged as such. The OP link notes that while this crime (robbery and assault) was reported and racial slurs were made it was not (as yet) treated (charged) as a "hate crime".

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In this case, did the media omit key facts?

    I ask because it doesn't seem that way to me but maybe I missed something

    No, no, this case is special. It's just included to get people (especially vets) pissed off. The important things to remember are:

    1. Blacks are slaughter whites in massive numbers and this goes totally unreported in the news.
    2. White never do anything to blacks. We know this because, if they did, it would be headline national news for weeks in every single case!
    3. Therefore, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING!

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Crimes are accurately reported. There is no conspiracy.
    Not by the media. By law enforcement agencies, yes...not by the media.

    There is not a massive wave of attacks by blacks against elderly vets being covered up by the media. There is no lack of white on black crimes, as demonstrated by racist groups across America every day in our schools, prisons and streets.
    I didn't claim any of that. I pointed out that the majority of crimes against blacks are committed by blacks. To say that there is more black on white violence than white on black violence doesn't in any way imply that there is no white on black violence.

    That's all a bunch of BS intended to give the impression that whites are being slaughtered without notice and, thus, we need to do something about this - quickly!
    The quantifiable truth is that there are twice the number of black on white murders as there are white on black murders. Considering the huge demographic disparity, this is far more significant than merely "double".
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In this case, did the media omit key facts?

    I ask because it doesn't seem that way to me but maybe I missed something
    The race of the attackers. Sure it's implied, but it's not stated. One could just as easily assume that it was a gang of vietnamese attacking the "white boy". In fact, one would have to be racist to assume they were black, if going solely on this article.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What the statistics show is that for violent crime blacks are 7X to 8X more likely to commit violent crime than whites yet for "hate crime" that difference does not show up. The premise of the OP, supported by your socioeconomic theory as well, is that is not because it does not occur but simply because it is not (as often) charged as such. The OP link notes that while this crime (robbery and assault) was reported and racial slurs were made it was not (as yet) treated (charged) as a "hate crime".

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    Do you believe that if racial slurs are used, then that makes it a hate crime?

    Or do you realize that there are a variety of factors used to make such a determination?
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    What the statistics show is that for violent crime blacks are 7X to 8X more likely to commit violent crime than whites yet for "hate crime" that difference does not show up.
    Since you are generally a well reasoned and respectful poster, I will attempt to explain what you've missed here.

    Hate crimes require two things, in general:

    1. That there be no other motivation for the crime than the race/gender of the victim. If the accused stole their wallet, hate crime is generally off the table.
    2. The accused must be a member of a hate group that targets the victim's race/gender, or must possess propaganda from a hate group that targets the victim's race/gender.

    As we can see by these standards, hate crimes are more than just interracial crimes. They are crimes committed for the purpose of terrorism and without any other purpose. Thus, when someone robs someone else, it is not a hate crime - even if they are different races - because the motive was not racial hate and the purpose was not to instill fear in the target's race/gender/etc.

    If you're following to that point, then you will understand why the vast majority of black on white (and white on black) crimes are not hate crimes.


    We should note that the use of racial slurs does not make a robbery or other crime a hate crime. The actual standards are outlined above.
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The race of the attackers. Sure it's implied, but it's not stated. One could just as easily assume that it was a gang of vietnamese attacking the "white boy". In fact, one would have to be racist to assume they were black, if going solely on this article.
    It is my understanding that omitting the race of both victims and perps is pretty much SOP for the media. If you believe that the media is only omitting the race when the perps are black or the victim is white, do you have any credible evidence that this is so?
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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Only in the delusional world of the right wing does a story of black against white crime being reported by the media demonstrate that the media ignores black against white crime
    Hey genius nobody said it was completly ignored but what about the one instance of a white person doing it and Eric Holder charging him with a federal hate crime but ignoring the dozens of stories of black racists attacking whites simply for there skin color. Its your world thats delusional

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    Re: ‘Knock That White Boy Out’: Arrests Made After Mob Of Teens Attack Disabled Vet

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Do you believe that if racial slurs are used, then that makes it a hate crime?

    Or do you realize that there are a variety of factors used to make such a determination?
    That seems very inconsistent - does it not? That is precisely the point of the OP; that the victim of this robbery and assault was indeed subjected to (selected for?) his race. To be considered as a "hate crime" the motive for victim selection has to include race (as this one did) but you seem to assert that it must be the primary (or only?) motive in selecting the victim. Simply adding robbery to the crime should not somehow override the racial (or other) "hate" factor in selecting the victim.
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