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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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Agreed, but the way some act it's as if it is so otherwise what's the harm? No one is trying to force homosexual onto heterosexual. As some have pointed out here, they claimed to be good at determining gayness before a person even admits it, same goes for homosexuals, most know heterosexuals and won't pursue. Maybe conservatives can relate to this: many conservatives are pro gun, do not want to force their gun view onto others just want to be left alone to enjoy their guns as it relates to gun-control debates. It's hypocritical to not use same with SSM.

I have found it ineffective to use logic about this because their position is rooted it something so illogical. It's purely emotional. They usually end up resorting to silly tactics like "it's not normal" or "it's not a right" or "it's against god". You're argument is sound but when you are debating with someone who has clearly chosen to toss out reason or logic it is pearls before swine.
 
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Give me a definition of "natural" which does not include homosexual behavior.

It is funny how you took the least of what I said and an isolated point, and claim that since you disagree with it it means the rest of the facts presented do not matter. I realize you have no ability to actually defend your comments, but this was still particularly sad.

There are six billion people in the world, so genetic mutations are inevitable. And none of those six billion were created from homosexual sex.
 
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The state needs to show cause, they can't. Tradition is not cause.

Try reading some more you seem to have trouble understanding. I wasn't using the equal protection clause.

States have laws that are created by the state legislature, among those laws are the definition of marriage. The Supreme Court has upheld the rights of the states to make laws. You don't like it, tough. that is the way it works.

I have no trouble understanding laws at all. Apparently you do especially the ones you don't agree with therefore you cry equal protection violation. Since marriage isn't in the Constitution and equal protection is, it doesn't apply to marriage. The best way to make that happen is to define it in the Constitution, then you will have an argument Until that happens you have none
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Give me a definition of "natural" which does not include homosexual behavior.

It is funny how you took the least of what I said and an isolated point, and claim that since you disagree with it it means the rest of the facts presented do not matter. I realize you have no ability to actually defend your comments, but
this was still particularly sad
aw ... don't be so sad

so sad so old.jpg
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

There are six billion people in the world, so genetic mutations are inevitable. And none of those six billion were created from homosexual sex.

Which does not answer the question. Fail, try again.
 
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It's accurate to say homosexuality exists in nature but it's not accurate to say it's natural to BE homosexual.
That's pretty much a truism and given that, the rest of what you said doesn't matter.

It is natural to be homosexual. They can't reproduce with each other, yet they have existed for all of recorded history.
 
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It is natural to be homosexual. They can't reproduce with each other, yet they have existed for all of recorded history.

It's also natural to **** your sister, or your mother, or your daughter, or your niece, or your cousin......
 
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Which does not answer the question. Fail, try again.

Buy a jigsaw puzzle and an Anatomy book, and get back to us when you're done.

I know you desperately want it to be normal, but it's not. People are unfortunately born with defects all the time. This is just one of them.

Doesn't mean you have to hate homosexuals, and most people don't. But it doesn't change what "normal" is.
 
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It's also natural to **** your sister, or your mother, or your daughter, or your niece, or your cousin......

Homosexuality is not the same thing as incest. You know that.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Buy a jigsaw puzzle and an Anatomy book, and get back to us when you're done.

I know you desperately want it to be normal, but it's not. People are unfortunately born with defects all the time. This is just one of them.

Doesn't mean you have to hate homosexuals, and most people don't. But it doesn't change what "normal" is.

It's not a birth defect. That is a stupid, hateful thing to say.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Buy a jigsaw puzzle and an Anatomy book, and get back to us when you're done.

I know you desperately want it to be normal, but it's not. People are unfortunately born with defects all the time. This is just one of them.

Doesn't mean you have to hate homosexuals, and most people don't. But it doesn't change what "normal" is.

Wait, didn't you, and a few other conservatives, just complain about the length of this thread....and then continue contributing more and nonsense defect **** at that.

Yep, here it is
100-page thread in "Breaking News" about a third-tier actress who prefers sex with women to men.

If she were a Russian double agent, this thread would be half this long.
 
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States have laws that are created by the state legislature, among those laws are the definition of marriage. The Supreme Court has upheld the rights of the states to make laws. You don't like it, tough. that is the way it works.

I have no trouble understanding laws at all. Apparently you do especially the ones you don't agree with therefore you cry equal protection violation. Since marriage isn't in the Constitution and equal protection is, it doesn't apply to marriage. The best way to make that happen is to define it in the Constitution, then you will have an argument Until that happens you have none

LOL I'll be toasting you soon enough when SSM is legalized in Texas with a SCOTUS ruling.

BTW, sinec you like to use SCOTUS as being "consitutional" so is abortion, so if you don't like it, tough that is the way it works.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Buy a jigsaw puzzle and an Anatomy book, and get back to us when you're done.

I know you desperately want it to be normal, but it's not. People are unfortunately born with defects all the time. This is just one of them.

Doesn't mean you have to hate homosexuals, and most people don't. But it doesn't change what "normal" is.

So we go from irrelevancies that have nothing to do with what we talked about, and fail even on the level intended(hint: a jigsaw puzzle piece that has a hole in back and protrusion in front, which fits into a piece with a hole in back and protrusion in front, which fits into a piece...well, that does not help your argument at all, kinda the opposite), to bringing up "normal", which is not what I talked about(hint: "natural" and "normal" are two different things). I would point out that I have not claimed that homosexuality is normal. I do point out that genius level IQ is not normal either.

SO when you can respond to what I actually posted, and can actually make a point, please get back to me. Actually, keep making these really stupid arguments, they are both entertaining and help me make my point, while ruining any chance of you making any kind of convincing point.
 
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It is natural to be homosexual. They can't reproduce with each other, yet they have existed for all of recorded history.

Gay people have reproduced throughout history. It is even easier now.
 
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Gay people have reproduced throughout history. It is even easier now.

Boy. It is just like them to complicate the issue.
 
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Gay people have reproduced throughout history. It is even easier now.

Yes they have. That's why I said "with each other".

Straight people are still the number one producers of gay people. :2razz:
 
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LOL I'll be toasting you soon enough when SSM is legalized in Texas with a SCOTUS ruling.

BTW, sinec you like to use SCOTUS as being "consitutional" so is abortion, so if you don't like it, tough that is the way it works.

LOL, when hell freezes over

As for abortion, aren't you happy your mother didn't believe in it?
 
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LOL, when hell freezes over

As for abortion, aren't you happy your mother didn't believe in it?

Why? Are you?
 
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Yes they have. That's why I said "with each other".

Straight people are still the number one producers of gay people. :2razz:

That one does not work either. I knew a couple married couples, with kids, where both the married couples where gay. The marriages where simply for benefits and to have kids.
 
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That one does not work either. I knew a couple married couples, with kids, where both the married couples where gay. The marriages where simply for benefits and to have kids.

It certainly does work. Two guys had a baby? I would have thought that I would have heard about that. :lol:
 
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I value human life unlike some here

Ah! There's lots of human life and more with every passing day.
 
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