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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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MACS-24 said:
Conservative. He refuses her and any gay person to have a voice.
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How did he do that exactly?

You think because he doesn't want to hear about who people sleep with, that is hatred?

Wow the definition has really changed.
 
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Mason66 said:
How did he do that exactly?

Does he know her?
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Whatever they do is okay, to him, as long as they keep it in the bedroom. They are not allowed, to him, to publicly come out. No free speech.
 
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Mason66 said:
1.)Why can't you see what Conservative is saying.
2.)He is fine with what she wants to do in her bedroom, but why does it have to be a national news conference.
3.)Who has expressed hatred towards her or any gay person in this thread?
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1.) uhm, who mentioned conservative? not me, my post had nothing to do with him i dont even remember reading his post, your mistake
2.) again dont know what he said but it was NOT a national news conference, LMAO, she mentioned it at an event she attended for HUMAN RIGHTS. I admit i have no clue what conservative said nor do i need to since my post wasnt about him but do you even have any clue what this thread and the OP is about? LMAO
3.) really? read the thread theres a handful
 
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winston53660 said:
And you want to split hairs. I wonder why? Nah not really. I know why.
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No splitting at all, just correcting your obvious error. Post 336 of yours is in error. It was NOT the Emancipation Proclamation that outlawed slavery.
 
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Another gay... Yay! Well at least they're much easier to stone when we know who they are.. ;)

Kidding, chillax. :)


Tim-
 
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Conservative said:
No splitting at all, just correcting your obvious error. Post 336 of yours is in error. It was NOT the Emancipation Proclamation that outlawed slavery.
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There is not an error. If slaves are freed what does that mean?
 
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Conservative said:
Sorry, I don't see a heterosexual entering a Gym full of people and getting a standing ovation because they are a heterosexual. Like it or not, homosexuals are a small part of this country and yet they flaunt their sexuality and get the publicity. Why? With all the problems in this country homosexuality shouldn't even be on the list.
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Of course, this gripefest fails to take into account that Ellen Page wasn't "flaunting her sexuality." It's not like she rented out a billboard in Times ****ing Square. She was speaking ... at a conference ... to adults who work with LGBTQ youth. Her sexuality is actually relevant to that particular crowd. The fact that news outlets picked up the story is not her fault, although I'm sure she knew full well that she's a significant enough name (Oscar nominee) that the media would pick it up.

And the people who don't understand why this is a big deal for her to do simply can't relate to her situation at all. When my brother came out to me, it was one of the hardest things he ever did (he later told me), even though he knew damn well I was a pretty liberal guy. And those complaining that it's a story ... well, deal with it. It's already basically out of the news cycle; it was there for one day (and on a slow Friday). It was not front-page news except maybe in her hometown paper. Maybe when anti-gay discrimination is a thing of the past, this will cease to be news.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
Here are the points you are missing:

1) What the Hooker study actually showed.
2) How a mental illness is defined.

I would be happy to show you BOTH of these, but I will be heading back to work momentarily, so it will have to wait.



A statistical anomaly does NOT automatically equate to a mental disorder or a disorder of any kind. Since this is your premise, and it is a false premise, everything that flows from it is incorrect.
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Do you have a link to a free copy of the complete work, instead of just the summery?
 
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winston53660 said:
There is not an error. If slaves are freed what does that mean?
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It means they were set free, NOT ALL, but those that weren't supportive of the North. It didn't make slavery illegal, the 13th Amendment did. you are a perfect example of what is wrong with liberals, you simply cannot admit when you are wrong. Did the Emancipation Proclamation outlaw Slavery? A simple yes or know will suffice
 
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Your Star said:
Seriously, watch the speech, it will bring tears to your eyes. So happy and proud of her. You can tell she was very nervous and this meant a lot to her.

Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay" - CNN.com
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Who gives a **** if she's gay? yeah tears would only run down the eyes of a progressive at the announcement of such a meaningless admission.
 
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Conservative said:
It means they were set free, NOT ALL, but those that weren't supportive of the North. It didn't make slavery illegal, the 13th Amendment did. you are a perfect example of what is wrong with liberals, you simply cannot admit when you are wrong. Did the Emancipation Proclamation outlaw Slavery? A simple yes or know will suffice
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Yes, it did outlaw slavery in the rebellious states.
 
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I'm a man that likes to have sex with woman - does anyone care to shed a tear over that?

Probably not which makes this thread biased.
 
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Helix said:
really? the top tax rate from 1954 to 1963 was 91 percent.

some of the cars were cooler, but that's about it.
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On the 1%ers. Taking the burden off the rest resulting in the growth of the middle class, which is now in decline.
 
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"Coming out" is so common I don't see how this is news worthy.
 
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The trendiness of "coming out" as gay will wear off soon enough, and will be replaced by coming out as bisexual soon enough. There is little actors will not do to gain publicity and seeking shock-value is definitely one way of doing so. Nothing is more despicable to actors than no publicity at all. This did not take courage for her to do. Rather, her agent and her agreed it was a beneficial career move putting her in the spotlight, which it did. It is very clear Hollywood does not discriminate against gays.
 
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I hope that the day when gay rights will be recognized all over the world instead of just in the US will come. In South Korea, the first celebrity to have come out was first burned at the stake, then is now seen as a laughingstock, an Internet meme. The first gay marriage in South Korea was only last year, and it rained with fire and hell from those who condemned it.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
I'm a man that likes to have sex with woman - does anyone care to shed a tear over that?

Probably not which makes this thread biased.
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I'll tell you what, when being straight becomes a minority, I will shed a tear for you. When people assume that everyone in the world is gay by default and straight people are forced to come out to family, friends, coworkers, neighbors, and the entire world JUST to be able to do some of the simple things that straight people take for granted (i.e. bringing a S.O. to a company Christmas party), then and only then will your statement not sound incredibly stupid.
 
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joko104 said:
The trendiness of "coming out" as gay will wear off soon enough, and will be replaced by coming out as bisexual soon enough. There is little actors will not do to gain publicity and seeking shock-value is definitely one way of doing so. Nothing is more despicable to actors than no publicity at all. This did not take courage for her to do. Rather, her agent and her agreed it was a beneficial career move putting her in the spotlight, which it did. It is very clear Hollywood does not discriminate against gays.
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And you know this for a fact, how? Were you in the room with them? Or, as I suspect, is this just your own personal opinion masquerading as fact?
 
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Koros said:
I'll tell you what, when being straight becomes a minority, I will shed a tear for you. When people assume that everyone in the world is gay by default and straight people are forced to come out to family, friends, coworkers, neighbors, and the entire world JUST to be able to do some of the simple things that straight people take for granted (i.e. bringing a S.O. to a company Christmas party), then and only then will your statement not sound incredibly stupid.
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See, thats the problem - you think being a "minority" is so damn special - yet you will be the first one to sit back and claim they're just like anyone else....Obviously they're NOT when you're crying over them and giving them special treatment as if they have some disabling disease or something.

If you want minorities to be treated like everyone else then treat them like everyone else instead of pandering to them - as if they have some sort of disability.

You ever bother to think for a second that there are plenty of minorities and gay people in this world who view their differences and nothing at all? People who don't use their differences as a stepping stone for a potential discrimination lawsuit or don't even acknowledge them at all. And just view themselves as normal people trying to get by just like anyone else in this world.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
See, thats the problem - you think being a "minority" is so damn special - yet you will be the first one to sit back and claim they're just like anyone else....Obviously they're NOT when you're crying over them and giving them special treatment as if they have some disabling disease or something.

If you want minorities to be treated like everyone else then treat them like everyone else instead of pandering to them - as if they have some sort of disability.
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Where did I cry over anyone, or say that anyone deserves special treatment? Projecting a bit, are you?

There is NO bias in acknowledging when a gay person comes out but not caring when a straight person admits that they are straight. The reason for that is that the former requires a conscious decision to tell others because the latter is an assumption made about everyone. Did you, as a straight men, ever have a time in your life when everyone around you just ASSUMED you were gay?

Now, should people care who is gay or who isn't? No, they shouldn't. But, the fact remains that, in our society, being a member of a minority comes with certain challenges to be overcome. It shouldn't be this way, but it is. And being gay comes with the undeniable fact that people assume you are not gay until you tell them otherwise. In some ways, being gay is harder than being a racial minority. When a child is born, the world knows the child's race. But, regardless of race, there is an assumption of heterosexuality placed upon that child until they, if they ever decide to, come out and tell the world how wrong those assumptions are.

Seriously, how do you not get this?
 
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winston53660 said:
Yes, it did outlaw slavery in the rebellious states.
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Keep moving those goalposts rather than admit you are wrong. It was the 13th Amendment that outlawed slavery, not the Emancipation Proclamation. I do feel sorry for people like you
 
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Mr.Nick said:
See, thats the problem - you think being a "minority" is so damn special…
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Indeed.

In this case, there's a very good reason why they are, have always been, and will always be, a small minority.

From an evolutionary standpoint, their aberration is a dead end—something that the process of natural selection tries to weed out for the betterment of the species as a whole.
 
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Bob Blaylock said:
Indeed.

In this case, there's a very good reason why they are, have always been, and will always be, a small minority.

From an evolutionary standpoint, their aberration is a dead end—something that the process of natural selection tries to weed out for the betterment of the species as a whole.
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Given that every single homosexual on the planet came from heterosexual parents, I think your argument has been proven to be patently false.
 
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Koros said:
Given that every single homosexual on the planet came from heterosexual parents, I think your argument has been proven to be patently false.
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Well, either that, or you've just demonstrated how little you understand about human genetics. and natural selection.
 
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Conservative said:
Keep moving those goalposts rather than admit you are wrong. It was the 13th Amendment that outlawed slavery, not the Emancipation Proclamation. I do feel sorry for people like you
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Saying what the EP did is moving the goal posts? Okey dookkey whatever:roll:
 
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