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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

You're the only one who could tolerate you. No one else considers you worth their time or spittle.

Yet you waste your time responding to me.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

The laws were changed, Race was added to the Constitution. want to try that with Marriage?

I'll take answering a question with a question as a Yes.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Nah, straight people can get treated like that everyday. Need a better excuse than that.

Not because they are straight.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Probably because you haven't lived as a gay person in a society that treats them like second-class citizens and sometimes beats them to death for being who they are. Or just beats and harasses them as teenagers until they commit suicide, which is the same thing, really.

Kids get bullied by other kids. That isn't exactly new nor is it somehow isolated to just gay individuals.

People are assholes and pick on others for all kinds of things. Sometimes those things the target can help and other times they can't. Again, this isn't new nor is isolated to gay individuals.

I'm not feeling the pity party here.
 
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Not because they are straight.

Sure they do. There are several things that make straight people different that can result in being ridiculed and even physically abused by another group. Color, religion, physical features like bucked teeth, being fat or super skinny, even the sharpest pencils in the box can be ridiculed over their intellect by the dumb and ignorant.
 
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What? What does any of this have to do with whether or not you also support slavery because it was 'supported by history' too?

Look, you want to play your silly games, play with someone else. Slavery was outlawed by a Constitutional Amendment change making race a civil right and preventing discrimination. Marriage is common law and not a civil right. You want to make it a civil right, go for it by creating a Constitutional Amendment. I posted how difficult that is going to be for you but then again laws don't matter to liberals who prefer having the courts overturn them and legislating from the bench. You aren't going to like the outcome.
 
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I think it's the other way around.

I thought it was obvious that you waste my time making me read the trash you folks post. It was assumed.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Look, you want to play your silly games, play with someone else. Slavery was outlawed by a Constitutional Amendment .

Actually you are wrong. It was the Emancipation Proclamation and that was ****drum roll please**** an executive order!
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Actually you are wrong. It was the Emancipation Proclamation and that was ****drum roll please**** an executive order!

Nope. Since the Emancipation Proclamation was a military measure, it didn’t apply to border slave states like Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky and Missouri that remained loyal to the Union. Also, selected areas of the Confederacy were exempted due to them coming under Union control in hopes of gaining the loyalty of whites in those states. In reality, the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t immediately free a single slave.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Nope. Since the Emancipation Proclamation was a military measure, it didn’t apply to border slave states like Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky and Missouri that remained loyal to the Union. Also, selected areas of the Confederacy were exempted due to them coming under Union control in hopes of gaining the loyalty of whites in those states. In reality, the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t immediately free a single slave.

Around 20,000 to 50,000 slaves in regions where rebellion had already been subdued were immediately emancipated. It could not be enforced in areas still under rebellion, but as the Union army took control of Confederate regions, the Proclamation provided the legal framework for freeing more than 3 million more slaves in those regions.

Emancipation Proclamation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Actually you are wrong. It was the Emancipation Proclamation and that was ****drum roll please**** an executive order!

Partially correct however the Emancipation Proclamation was part of the war powers act given to Lincoln and authorized release of the slaves after the Confederacy was dissolved. It was the 13th Amendment that outlawed slavery. Freeing the slaves and outlawing slavery are two different issues.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Around 20,000 to 50,000 slaves in regions where rebellion had already been subdued were immediately emancipated. It could not be enforced in areas still under rebellion, but as the Union army took control of Confederate regions, the Proclamation provided the legal framework for freeing more than 3 million more slaves in those regions.

Emancipation Proclamation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do you read the entire article or just the headlines? As usual you are wrong again

The Proclamation only applied to slaves in Confederate-held lands; it did not apply to those in the four slave states that were not in rebellion (Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, and Missouri, which were unnamed), nor to Tennessee (also unnamed), and specifically excluded counties of Virginia soon to form the state of West Virginia. Also specifically excluded (by name) were some regions already controlled by the Union army. Emancipation in those places would come after separate state actions and/or the December 1865 ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment, which made slavery and indentured servitude, except for those duly convicted of a crime, illegal everywhere subject to United States jurisdiction.[4]
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Do you read the entire article or just the headlines? As usual you are wrong again

Nope I'm not wrong. The EP is where freedom began for the slaves.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Look, you want to play your silly games, play with someone else. Slavery was outlawed by a Constitutional Amendment change making race a civil right and preventing discrimination. Marriage is common law and not a civil right. You want to make it a civil right, go for it by creating a Constitutional Amendment. I posted how difficult that is going to be for you but then again laws don't matter to liberals who prefer having the courts overturn them and legislating from the bench. You aren't going to like the outcome.

Nope. Not playing games. Just pointing out your hypocrisy.

...to be continued, back on duty.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Nope I'm not wrong. The EP is where freedom began for the slaves.

LOL, where it began or where it was outlawed? Do you know the difference? You are wrong and cannot admit it. It was the 13th Amendment that outlawed slavery not the Emancipation Proclamation which for some reason you want to tout an executive order. Gee, wonder why?
 
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It's not a sales pitch, it's wishing someone well and hoping they avoid something that will destroy them.

There's no secular evidence of that being the case. You're just going on ideology, which is thinly supported anyway.

Homosexuality doesn't destroy homosexuals, other people do. Thanks for proving that.
 
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It's funny to see the same old failed arguments play out over and over again in threads such as these. It's why the gay rights battle is being won everywhere.

As far as theology goes, most Christians will acknowledge that God's law is ultimate and yet God works in mysterious ways. So I'm wondering why Christians feel so apt to lecture others about their sin when they are not supposed to be the judges.

If God judges gays at the gate of heaven then it's between them and God, which still makes it none of your business. lol
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

LOL, where it began or where it was outlawed? Do you know the difference? You are wrong and cannot admit it. It was the 13th Amendment that outlawed slavery not the Emancipation Proclamation which for some reason you want to tout an executive order. Gee, wonder why?

And you want to split hairs. I wonder why? Nah not really. I know why.
 
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So I'm wondering why Christians feel so apt to lecture others about their sin when they are not supposed to be the judges.

It's something of a false sense of superiority.

One way you can demonstrate this Johnny Cashs "Gods gonna cut you down" popularity among evangelical Christians.

We all like to feel a little better about ourselves and I think that to a certain extent, genuinely feeling like the people you don't like are going to get ****ing annihilated must be a comforting thought to some.

Especially when your beliefs are based on such shaky ground with all we know today.
 
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The best part of this thread, its factual proof that sadly and unfortunately coming out can still be and is in many cases big deal because it will be met with hate and bigotry judgmental hypocrites that dont even see the irony.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

The best part of this thread, its factual proof that sadly and unfortunately coming out can still be and is in many cases big deal because it will be met with hate and bigotry judgmental hypocrites that dont even see the irony.

Why can't you see what Conservative is saying.

He is fine with what she wants to do in her bedroom, but why does it have to be a national news conference.

Who has expressed hatred towards her or any gay person in this thread?
 
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Why can't you see what Conservative is saying.

He is fine with what she wants to do in her bedroom, but why does it have to be a national news conference.

Who has expressed hatred towards her or any gay person in this thread?

Conservative. He refuses her and any gay person to have a voice.
 
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