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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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So abnormal developments in the brain have "absolutely nothing" to do with mental illness? Then what exactly do you define as a mental illness?

I see no abnormal developments. I see differences.
 
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Sorry, I don't see a heterosexual entering a Gym full of people and getting a standing ovation because they are a heterosexual. Like it or not, homosexuals are a small part of this country and yet they flaunt their sexuality and get the publicity. Why? With all the problems in this country homosexuality shouldn't even be on the list.

You do realize that there are MANY ways that heterosexuals flaunt their sexuality. Look at any magazine cover. Your short-sightedness is noted.
 
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I had no reason to ask for clarification from someone who clearly doesn't understand the issue... based on your posts. Communication has two components: clarity of expression and understanding of the issue. If you lack both, I have little interest in wanting to clarification of the expression.

And your proof that I don't understand the issue? Is that totally based upon the fact that I disagree with what you "know"? Or is it a case of the "allegory of the cave" and you simply reject the existence of light?
 
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Sorry, I don't see a heterosexual entering a Gym full of people and getting a standing ovation because they are a heterosexual. Like it or not, homosexuals are a small part of this country and yet they flaunt their sexuality and get the publicity. Why? With all the problems in this country homosexuality shouldn't even be on the list.

What kind of gym have you been going to where gays are given a standing ovation?

So abnormal developments in the brain have "absolutely nothing" to do with mental illness? Then what exactly do you define as a mental illness?

Someone liking something you don't like isn't mental illness. That's kind of childish, isn't it?
 
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And your proof that I don't understand the issue? Is that totally based upon the fact that I disagree with what you "know"? Or is it a case of the "allegory of the cave" and you simply reject the existence of light?

No, it's the fact that you disagree with research and evidence. The only one rejecting the light around here is you.
 
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You do realize that there are MANY ways that heterosexuals flaunt their sexuality. Look at any magazine cover. Your short-sightedness is noted.

Again, I don't see heterosexuals getting standing ovations or even threads in this forum for being who they are. Homosexuals seem to want the attention and seem to get it from people who simply want to be PC rather than ignore just how unimportant that issue is in the overall scope of things.
 
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What kind of gym have you been going to where gays are given a standing ovation?



Someone liking something you don't like isn't mental illness. That's kind of childish, isn't it?


Did you watch the Missouri Basketball game last night? Apparently not
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Natalie Portman is bigger, has a better body, and has a pretty face. She also is a better actress and has a certain charm about her that will last long after her looks give way. I don't think you can compare Ellen Page to Natalie Portman.



From what I have seen she likes picking parts that involve some sort of mental or physical torment. If she was just picking parts like that every once in a while that would be one thing, but it's pretty consistent that she will pick a part that has one or the other.

I have to admit that as I was about to reply to this last night, I realized that I combined your posts with another (I lost track after bouncing back and forth) so my original hateful tone, I thought matched, was not warranted - sorry. Comments still valid, I just need to break habit of trying to match perceived tone.
 
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We have a sick society today or at least a segment of it. Please tell me why this deserves a standing ovation? You want to be a homosexual, great, do it, but why should you be treated any different from anyone else especially those in the majority that aren't homosexual? There is nothing normal about being homosexual

Sam receives standing ovation at basketball game
 
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We have a sick society today or at least a segment of it. Please tell me why this deserves a standing ovation? You want to be a homosexual, great, do it, but why should you be treated any different from anyone else especially those in the majority that aren't homosexual? There is nothing normal about being homosexual

Sam receives standing ovation at basketball game

Did you watch the Missouri Basketball game last night? Apparently not

First, it was an arena, not a gym. The fact that you can't tell the difference is telling.

Second, the only reason it happened was to drown out the Westboro Baptist Church trying to protest him.

The gathering was done in part to drown out the Westboro Baptist Church, which had said earlier in the week that it planned to go to Columbia to protest Sam. According to the Columbia Daily Tribune, 15 Westboro members showed up Saturday, holding up signs with "derogatory slogans about Sam and homosexuality."

So essentially, bigoted christians showed up to protest, the people overpowered them with their ovation, and you come onto internet forums to complain about the ovation. And as a matter of fact, we DO have a lot of problems in this nation right now, and lack of equal rights is one of the biggest.
 
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Wow, I am so proud of her, she joins three percent of the population and gets touted as a heroine. Why don't you people just STFU and stop flaunting your sexual activity? This is unbelievable and no wonder it is a polarizing issue. Keep your sexual activity to yourself. I am so sick and tired of this issue and people who "come out" being treated as someone special. With all the problems facing this country some people have interesting priorities and a different definition of what is important and worthy of hero status. You people are something else

You should try to temporarily put away your personal biases and watch "Wish me away" by Chely Wright. For some, it is a high priority facing this country as in:
Wish Me Away shows both the devastation of her own internalized homophobia, which led to Chely putting a gun in her mouth, and the transformational power of living an authentic life. It shows the struggles of being a Christian who happens to be gay, even within her own family. And it reveals how “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” has found its way into the culture of Nashville.
(from movie webpage) which she found out others have put a gun to their head too. Some one using their high profile to save others is a good thing, opposed to Brittany, Lindsay Lohan et al.
 
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Sorry, I don't see a heterosexual entering a Gym full of people and getting a standing ovation because they are a heterosexual. Like it or not, homosexuals are a small part of this country and yet they flaunt their sexuality and get the publicity. Why? With all the problems in this country homosexuality shouldn't even be on the list.

If it is such a small part of the country "flaunting" why would it bother you?
 
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First, it was an arena, not a gym. The fact that you can't tell the difference is telling.

Second, the only reason it happened was to drown out the Westboro Baptist Church trying to protest him.



So essentially, bigoted christians showed up to protest, the people overpowered them with their ovation, and you come onto internet forums to complain about the ovation. And as a matter of fact, we DO have a lot of problems in this nation right now, and lack of equal rights is one of the biggest.

Oh, Good Lord, Arenas today are the Gyms of yesterday, just bigger. Get over it

As for the Christians protesting, interesting that they were overpowered by the PC crowd when it should have been the other way around. Sam shouldn't have been cheered, he should have been ignored. What you do in your own bedroom is your business, cheering it is a sickness
 
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If it is such a small part of the country "flaunting" why would it bother you?

Why? because the TV's publicize it, the sitcoms glamorize it, the Media trumpets it. Too much emphasis given to a small minority in this country all because the "right" people are in positions of authority. It really is a shame that homosexual activity is playing such a prominent role in the country today especially with all the problems this country faces.
 
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So you are saying it is normal for a person to be sexually attracted to children, animals, inanimate objects, whatever, as long as who/what is desired is able to consent? The ability to consent determines normality? Rather a strange idea to me.

Children cannot consent. Animals cannot consent. Is that really hard for you to understand? It does not matter if a person is attracted to them if they cannot consent. Seems pretty common sense to me.
 
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I see no abnormal developments. I see differences.

How do you measure "normal"? Percentage of occurrence? Depression occurs in approximately 6.4% of the US population, yet is considered a major mental illness. Homosexuality in the US is approximately 3.8% yet is considered normal.

How about prevalence of consistency. In science, an inconsistent variation would be an anomaly. An anomaly of mental development is a mental disorder or illness. Statistical and inconsistent appearance at the rate of homosexuality would be considered anomaly in any other scientific endeavor. Such an anomaly would be researched and determined why the anomaly occurs and would not be considered normal variance. So clearly, in the case of homosexuality, scientific methodology and thinking are not applied.
 
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Why? because the TV's publicize it, the sitcoms glamorize it, the Media trumpets it. Too much emphasis given to a small minority in this country all because the "right" people are in positions of authority. It really is a shame that homosexual activity is playing such a prominent role in the country today especially with all the problems this country faces.

How can such a small segment be so prominent? So, suicide is not a problem? Oh I see, they're homos so dying is fitting.
 
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Seriously, watch the speech, it will bring tears to your eyes. So happy and proud of her. You can tell she was very nervous and this meant a lot to her.

Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay" - CNN.com

Good for her, I don't care. An individual's sexuality has no bearing on my own nor any impact upon my life. I don't know why we prance around thinking hetero and homosexuality really have that much functional meaning in the course of humanity.
 
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How can such a small segment be so prominent? So, suicide is not a problem? Oh I see, they're homos so dying is fitting.

equating homosexuality with suicide is quite a stretch.
 
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How do you measure "normal"? Percentage of occurrence? Depression occurs in approximately 6.4% of the US population, yet is considered a major mental illness. Homosexuality in the US is approximately 3.8% yet is considered normal.

Here are the points you are missing:

1) What the Hooker study actually showed.
2) How a mental illness is defined.

I would be happy to show you BOTH of these, but I will be heading back to work momentarily, so it will have to wait.

How about prevalence of consistency. In science, an inconsistent variation would be an anomaly. An anomaly of mental development is a mental disorder or illness. Statistical and inconsistent appearance at the rate of homosexuality would be considered anomaly in any other scientific endeavor. Such an anomaly would be researched and determined why the anomaly occurs and would not be considered normal variance. So clearly, in the case of homosexuality, scientific methodology and thinking are not applied.

A statistical anomaly does NOT automatically equate to a mental disorder or a disorder of any kind. Since this is your premise, and it is a false premise, everything that flows from it is incorrect.
 
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I believe that humans wrote the Bible, who may I remind you have free will. We humans then edited it, and re-edited it a whole bunch of times and it's mostly filled with irrelevant stories and myths from the bronze age. Yes, their is a main truth I believe that is in the Bible, which boils down to basically not being a dick and loving people as yourself. Which certainly doesn't leave room for believing that homosexuality is a sin, because that is kind of dick thing to believe. It also doesn't leave room for believing that people that don't believe in the exact same thing you believe are going to hell, which I believe is totally made up by humans because to me a loving God would never do that. It's all about how you treat people and how you live.
Well said. I pretty much agree with this, with a couple minor quibbles, but I won't go further as it could seriously derail the thread.
 
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equating homosexuality with suicide is quite a stretch.

Where did you read that? You want homosexuals to just shut up. That leads some to think the only answer is suicide because people like you think they are damaged goods that should not have a voice, or rights.
 
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Where did you read that? You want homosexuals to just shut up. That leads some to think the only answer is suicide because people like you think they are damaged goods that should not have a voice, or rights.

I don't give a damn whether homosexuals shutup or not, just don't publicize it. I am quite tired of all this bs of an issue that truly is irrelevant. It is all about someone trying to equate their own personal choice into a civil right. Homosexuals have the same rights as I have, to marry any member of the opposite sex that will have them and if they don't like it get the law changed in the states with I believe 12 doing just that. You want to be a homosexual and get married to a member of the same sex then move to a state that allows it.

Why would you even mention suicide and homosexuality in the same sentence?
 
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Oh, Good Lord, Arenas today are the Gyms of yesterday, just bigger. Get over it

As for the Christians protesting, interesting that they were overpowered by the PC crowd when it should have been the other way around. Sam shouldn't have been cheered, he should have been ignored. What you do in your own bedroom is your business, cheering it is a sickness

LOL! So now we get to the bottom of this! You're not upset that they're having a standing ovation because "America has bigger problems", you're upset because they had a standing ovation for something you despise.

Fact is, some of your christian bigots went to a basketball game to try to harass someone and you got bitch slapped by the general public.
 
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LOL! So now we get to the bottom of this! You're not upset that they're having a standing ovation because "America has bigger problems", you're upset because they had a standing ovation for something you despise.

Fact is, some of your christian bigots went to a basketball game to try to harass someone and you got bitch slapped by the general public.

Yep, call me a Christian bigot because I believe in the rule of law and homosexuality remaining private. I have no problem with that title. You want to marry someone of the same sex or have sex with your dog, that is your choice, have at it and if you feel that strong about it, get the law changed in your state.
 
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