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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Then you're completely out of touch with their daily lives, also not surprising. Let's look at CA since you keep pointing to a ballot from 2008 like it means anything: Marriage vs. Civil Union or Domestic Partnership | Freedom to Marry

    For one, civil unions aren't recognized federally! There goes 1000+ rights. Next, tell this guy there's no diff between civil union and marriage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR9gyloyOjM

    Now at Oregon, a state that will likely legalize SSM in the next year:

    "Oregon's domestic partnership law went into effect in February 2008. However, as with civil union the status remains a separate and unequal legal compromise which does not apply when a couple travels out of state, and offers no federal protections....Many domestic partnership registries offer no rights or protections at all and simply serve as a written acknowledgment of a couple's commitment to each other."

    What this boils down to is you clearly believe that homos are inferior, so basic rights and dignity are of far less significance than that every american bow down before you(r god) on this matter, thus you lumping it with abortion of all absurdities. You really may as well just let loose with what you really think. Let those insults fly
    What exactly does Marriage offer a couple that you cannot have in a Civil Union?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    According to the supreme court, you're completely wrong.



    And it ruled the same way another 12 times. You're free to be as bigoted as you want, but your opinion does not reflect reality.
    Because of procreation, how do gays procreate? Loving v Va was about race

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What exactly does Marriage offer a couple that you cannot have in a Civil Union?
    Equality. If to you a civil union has every advantage a marriage does, you're not arguing based on the effects for our society, you're arguing because it pisses you off that gays are getting married. If it's functionally the same, why are you so passionately against it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because of procreation, how do gays procreate? Loving v Va was about race
    Incorrect. Marriage has nothing to do with procreation. If that were a requirement, we would be denying sterile people or people who don't want kids from marrying.

    And yes, Loving v Virginia was about race, but it was one of many court cases that affirmed marriage as a civil right, which you claimed wasn't the case.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    RabidAlpaca;1062945104]Equality. If to you a civil union has every advantage a marriage does, you're not arguing based on the effects for our society, you're arguing because it pisses you off that gays are getting married. If it's functionally the same, why are you so passionately against it?
    A civil union can be anything you want it to be and what pisses me off is the fact that people like you and others claim equal rights violations on anything that you want and cannot legislate through the electorate. If you want the title of married, then move to a state that authorizes it or play by the rules established. You have the same rights I have with regard to marriage but because your sexual orientation is different that isn't good enough for you.



    Incorrect. Marriage has nothing to do with procreation. If that were a requirement, we would be denying sterile people or people who don't want kids from marrying.

    And yes, Loving v Virginia was about race, but it was one of many court cases that affirmed marriage as a civil right, which you claimed wasn't the case.
    Your opinion noted, I am entitled to mine. Marriage isn't in the Constitution and is a state issue. Going about changing the law in the states is the right thing to do for gays not through the courts. Courts are pissing off a lot of people and depending on the judge the ruling varies. The way to correct it is a Constitutional Amendment that Democrats and minorities like are scared to death of. You people want the issue not a solution

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Because of procreation, how do gays procreate? Loving v Va was about race
    Is procreation a requirement for marriage? No, it isn't. Why you keep bringing this strawman up is beyond me and others.

    I also love how you say this is an insignificant issue, yet you and others continue to fight it as though it is significant. If it isn't significant, stop fighting it then.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Is procreation a requirement for marriage? No, it isn't. Why you keep bringing this strawman up is beyond me and others.

    I also love how you say this is an insignificant issue, yet you and others continue to fight it as though it is significant. If it isn't significant, stop fighting it then.
    I fight to correct the record, Marriage isn't in the Constitution, isn't a civil right, and generates passion on the part of a lot of people. the way to solve the problem is to put it in the Constitution. What are you afraid of?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I fight to correct the record, Marriage isn't in the Constitution, isn't a civil right, and generates passion on the part of a lot of people. the way to solve the problem is to put it in the Constitution. What are you afraid of?
    Ah so it IS a significant issue to you and you lied. Got it thank you. So please stop spouting the lie of it being insignificant when you and others won't let it go. What is it about conservatism in you that forces you to lie?

    Soon enough it will be righted when the SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal across the states, even in YOUR state of Texas. I will toast to you that day and laugh.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Ah so it IS a significant issue to you and you lied. Got it thank you. So please stop spouting the lie of it being insignificant when you and others won't let it go. What is it about conservatism in you that forces you to lie?

    Soon enough it will be righted when the SCOTUS rules gay marriage legal across the states, even in YOUR state of Texas. I will toast to you that day and laugh.
    We shall see, they haven't yet and the question is why? SCOTUS has stayed away from state issues and marriage is a state issue. I am the one who gets it, equal protection to you and others is anything you want it to be and cannot sell to the electorate so you go to the courts.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Seriously, watch the speech, it will bring tears to your eyes. So happy and proud of her. You can tell she was very nervous and this meant a lot to her.

    Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay" - CNN.com
    What a surprise.

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    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    We shall see, they haven't yet and the question is why? SCOTUS has stayed away from state issues and marriage is a state issue. I am the one who gets it, equal protection to you and others is anything you want it to be and cannot sell to the electorate so you go to the courts.
    You also were one of the ones that said they wouldn't strike DOMA IIRC as well, how did that work for you?

    Equal protection? Bull****, if SSM were legalized, YOU could marry someone of the same sex too. Equality.

    No matter, I will toast to you and the other anti-SSM people (especially in Texas) when it happens, happily knowing YOU lost.

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