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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    There is a lot of passion on this issue and a lot of religious people in this country that believe this is a religious issue. I happen to support that belief but if I lose it will be like the abortion issue. I will live with it and let people that support it handle it somewhere in the future when they meet God.

    Make no mistake about it, this is going to be a Constitutional Amendment
    . . . . .Bet?
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) and yet you KEEP dodging so your posts prove there is a fear. You STILL havent answered the questions
    2.) yet here you are lol
    3.) i believe in god too, and what is the sanctity and tradition of marriage for me, all 100% meaningless to legal marriage
    4.) yes RELIGIOUS marriage may be defined in your bible and that definition is meaningless to legal marriage and your religion doesnt get to decide marriage for others that is thier right
    5.) i have no problem with what your religious beliefs are, thats another failed straw man of yours. Do you have any points that matter or are accurate and factual? because you religious belifs are meaningless to this topic.
    7.) yes its obvious you dont like and have a problem with the law and equal rights
    8.) the way forward is already happening. equal rights is winning, if you dont like it thats is your problem

    let me know when you are ready to answer the question and you stop dodging it
    I support a Constitutional Amendment defining Marriage thus I haven no fear. It will pass overwhelmingly IMO

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    . . . . .Bet?
    Bet you? LOL, why? I don't know you from Adam nor do I want to. I will let the Amendment speak for itself. You have way too much passion for this insignificant issue. there are many more pressing but if you want to make a big deal out of it, then support a Constitutional Amendment and let the chips fall where they may. You put way too much faith in activists justices who are overruled or disagreed with by others. The only wan to solve this issue is through the Amendment process.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    I support a Constitutional Amendment defining Marriage thus I haven no fear. It will pass overwhelmingly IMO
    every time you dont answer my questions your fear is shown

    there will be no Constitutional Amendment defining Marriage, do you take my bet on this or are you afraid on that too?
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Bet you? LOL, why? I don't know you from Adam nor do I want to. I will let the Amendment speak for itself. You have way too much passion for this insignificant issue. there are many more pressing but if you want to make a big deal out of it, then support a Constitutional Amendment and let the chips fall where they may. You put way too much faith in activists justices who are overruled or disagreed with by others. The only wan to solve this issue is through the Amendment process.
    translation:: fear

    thats what i thought LOL
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    I do support Civil Unions, offered them to my employees. How many employees have you ever had? This entire argument is bull**** and the only way to solve it is through a Constitutional Amendment, what are you afraid of?
    Then you're completely out of touch with their daily lives, also not surprising. Let's look at CA since you keep pointing to a ballot from 2008 like it means anything: Marriage vs. Civil Union or Domestic Partnership | Freedom to Marry

    For one, civil unions aren't recognized federally! There goes 1000+ rights. Next, tell this guy there's no diff between civil union and marriage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR9gyloyOjM

    Now at Oregon, a state that will likely legalize SSM in the next year:

    "Oregon's domestic partnership law went into effect in February 2008. However, as with civil union the status remains a separate and unequal legal compromise which does not apply when a couple travels out of state, and offers no federal protections....Many domestic partnership registries offer no rights or protections at all and simply serve as a written acknowledgment of a couple's commitment to each other."

    What this boils down to is you clearly believe that homos are inferior, so basic rights and dignity are of far less significance than that every american bow down before you(r god) on this matter, thus you lumping it with abortion of all absurdities. You really may as well just let loose with what you really think. Let those insults fly

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I support a Constitutional Amendment defining Marriage thus I haven no fear. It will pass overwhelmingly IMO


    why didn't it pass in 2003 then?? That's right, even in the height of the gay craze (at least, going back to 1950s) not enough senators were so foolish as to defecate on the constitution, by enshrining wholesale discrimination and mob rule.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You call it rectifying a wrong and that is your opinion. what apparently is wrong is it isn't in the Constitution and thus based upon the passion you have for this issue should be. that requires a Constitutional Amendment. What are you afraid of? Constitutional Amendments aren't ratified by a national vote.
    constitution already requires equal protection and court after court has ruled marriage to be a federal right (even prisoners can marry the opposite sex, how holy is that?). There is no need to do anything to the constitution except to enforce it.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And they can continue to believe and practice their religion. But until we become a theocracy, they can't dictate their beliefs on others.

    So, aspire to be Iranian. Embrace the religious freedom of America.
    Indeed, sounds like the talibornagains have infiltrated this thread. Some of their leakage sounds rather treasonous even.

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