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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    Copy and paste it into your browser. Activists justices can rule that the earth is flat too. Let the states handle the issue as marriage is common law and a state issue.
    nope not when it violates rights we already saw this history and are seeing it again
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    Why SSM isn't a civil right

    http://www.cpjustice.org/stories/storyReader$1178
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    we seek to help citizens and public officeholders respond to God's call to do justice.

    I find that troubling.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) yes the 10 or so polls over the last year or two are all skewed
    2.) a fact you cant prove lol and more importantly one that doesn't matter since there will be no amendment ment LMAO
    3.) facts proof you are the minority

    also nobody honest, educated and intelligent thinks equal rights alienates them or anything is being forced on them lol

    4.) actually it is, equal rights is winning
    5.) translation: you have no answers to the questions i asked, some of my post proves you factually wrong and you have no logic/facts to support some of your claims, so you will dodge them and runaway.
    I accept your concession.

    Let me know when you are ready or can back up your claims.
    Aw, yes, such passion for something that really is a non issue. Civil unions will provide exactly what SS couples want but no you and others have to go against history and tradition claiming the bogus argument of a violation of your civil rights. If you can show me where marriage is a civil right and defined in the Constitution then I will support your cause. It isn't and I don't

    12 or so states agree with you, you want to be married, move to one of those states. North Carolina voted 61 percent in favor of traditional marriage. You aren't going to win as muchof the country as you think as I have posted those poll numbers many times.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    from your link:

    we seek to help citizens and public officeholders respond to God's call to do justice.

    I find that troubling.
    Of course you do, and that doesn't surprise me at all nor do I care

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    nope not when it violates rights we already saw this history and are seeing it again
    That is your opinion, show me marriage defined in the Constitution or any other Federal document. It is a state issue and that is where it belongs. You want to make a federal issue, then put it in the form of a Constitutional Amendment. What are you afraid of?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    Of course you do, and that doesn't surprise me at all nor do I care
    If you don't care about the opinions of others why should anyone care about yours?
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    from your link:

    we seek to help citizens and public officeholders respond to God's call to do justice.

    I find that troubling.
    As we all should.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    Of course you do, and that doesn't surprise me at all nor do I care
    Substitute the word God with Allah and see if you understand.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    What are you afraid of?
    That some one will say it is contagious.
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    If certain gun guys are insulted by that? Good, they should be ashamed: the rest of US are sick and tired of having our intelligence insulted[/i].



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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    1.)Aw, yes, such passion for something that really is a non issue.
    2.) Civil unions will provide exactly what SS couples want
    3.)but no you and others have to go against history and tradition
    4.)claiming the bogus argument of a violation of your civil rights.
    5.)If you can show me where marriage is a civil right and defined in the Constitution then I will support your cause. It isn't and I don't
    6.)12 or so states agree with you
    7.) you want to be married, move to one of those states.
    8.) North Carolina voted 61 percent in favor of traditional marriage.
    9.) You aren't going to win as muchof the country as you think as I have posted those poll numbers many times.
    I thought you were done? still dodging the questions though

    1.) yes i noticed that, why do you have such an anti-gay rights passion when it should be such a non issue
    2.) that is 100% factually false. A marriage contracted has no equal and many parts of it cant be duplicated in anyway. Not to mention even an attempt do duplicated would fail for two factual other reasons
    A.) theres no such thing as equal but separate
    B.) civil unions and domestic partnerships have already been proven not to be as equally binding and concrete or absolute. For two reasons they are not marriage and there is 1000s of court cases establishing court precedents for them.

    facts win again and prove you wrong

    3.) still dodging the questions i see, history will not be impacted and is meaningless nor will tradition. If you disagree AGAIN answer the question and please explain to us all what factual tradition will be destroyed

    4.) its an EQUAL rights issue and yes some rulings have mentioned civil rights. If you dont like that you can always write a letter to all the judges that disagree with you and all thier rulings that disagree with you to. They will probably laugh as hard as we do.

    5.) marriage is a right SCOTUS said so 14 times, you lose
    it doesnt have to be in the constitution LOL this is another straw man that always fails.

    can you show me where it says you have the right not to get raped in the constitution? lol

    it doesnt need your support, its winning without you

    6.) 12????
    uhm its 21 and agreement is meanignless

    7.) i can get married in all the states because i have my rights, gays are now fighting for theirs BUT you bring up a great point.

    Some of the victories/and fights for equal rights happened because of people doing exactly what you said. People were married in one state and another state tried to not recognize it lol

    8.) nobody cares those bigots and or people that support discrimination dont get a say as we are finding out and when people fight for equal rights its winning

    9.) those poll numbers are 100% meaningless and id say you have 5 years max before equal rights is national, so get ready.

    also just to educated you further on this topic since you are obviously not educated on this topic here is a recent update, might have some mistakes in it but it will help you get caught up


    2/13/14 Version 5.0

    21 States with Equal Rights (3 in stay)

    Massachusetts - May 17, 2004
    Connecticut - November 12, 2008
    Iowa - April 27, 2009
    Vermont - September 1, 2009
    New Hampshire - January 1, 2010
    Washing D.C. - March 9, 2010
    FALL OF DADT Dec 18, 2010
    New York - July 24, 2011
    Washington - December 6, 2012
    Maine - December 29, 2012
    Maryland - January 1, 2013
    FALL OF DOMA - June 26, 2013
    California - June 28, 2013
    Delaware - July 1, 2013
    Rhode Island - August 1, 2013
    Minnesota - August 1, 2013
    New Jersey - October 21, 2013
    Hawaii - December 2, 2013
    New Mexico – December 19, 2013
    Utah – December 20. 2013 Currently Stayed and will be ruled on with OK)
    Oklahoma - Currently Stayed and will be ruled on with UT)
    GSK v. Abbott Laboratories - January 21, 2014 (could be huge in gay rights, discrimination/heightened scrutiny)
    Kentucky - February 2/14/14 (Must recognize out-of-state marriages) which will lead to their ban being defeated
    Virginia - February 2/14/14 (stay)
    Illinois - June 1, 2014 effective

    18 States Working Towards Equal Rights

    11 States with Pending Court Cases to Establish Equal Rights
    Alaska (Suit to be filed this month)
    Idaho
    Louisiana
    Michigan (Feb 2014 Trial)
    Mississippi
    North Carolina
    Pennsylvania (June 14 Trial)
    South Carolina
    Tennessee (Direct US Constitution Challenge)
    Texas (Jan 2014 Trial, Direct US Constitution Challenge)
    West Virginia

    4 States with Court Case(s) and Legislation to establish Equal Rights
    Arizona
    Arkansas (Decision Pending and 2016 ballot)
    Nevada
    Ohio (December 2013 trial) Trial had narrow ruling that ohio will recognize OTHER state marriages but didn’t impact bans. New cases expected.

    3 States with Legislation to Establish Equal Rights
    Colorado
    Florida
    Oregon

    thats 39 states that could have equal rights by 2016 and some much sooner!

    Also 3 State Attorney Generals no longer defending the constitutionality of bans, joining the case against them or reviewing their constitutionality
    Pennsylvania
    Virginia
    Nevada
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