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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This post doesn't make any sense.
    That is because you don't understand the difference between a State Constitutional Amendment and a Federal Amendment nor how they are ratified. You apparently don't understand what Prop 8 was either. Such passion you have for this social issue, You really ought to take a civics class.

    Courts overruled the State Constitutional Amendment that passed in California with 52% of the vote. Courts cannot overrule a Federal Constitutional Amendment. Federal Constitutional Amendments are ratified by the states not popular vote in the nation. If the States ratify a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution there is nothing the courts can do about it. You lose.

    My post makes perfect sense to anyone who understands civics, polling, and election results.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Ellen Page's sexuality has 80 pages of comments? That's insane!
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You STILL don't get the point of the study. There is no bias. The selectivity of the sample was necessary to eliminate bias.



    Since the control groups were appropriate for the study and the bias of the researcher... if there was any, is not evidenced in the results, I have no issue with the study at all. The study is methodologically sound. All of your objections are irrelevant as the sampling process is key to prevent bias in the results.
    The group selected was selected to give the results achieved. It was rigged.

    Her homosexual control group were already undergoing treatment for homosexual tendencies, given, unprofessional treatment but treatment none the less. That group should of been disqualified when she disqualified those in mental institutions. Therefore, she could not collect base data from such a group. She would need untreated homosexuals to establish base line data and to make conclusions. Basically, she proved that that particular groups treatment was successful, if anything.

    No where in science will altered specimens be considered for base line data. Her "specimens" had already been potentially altered, corrupting the study and hence corrupting any results from it.

    Had a different group been used, I would gladly and easily accept the conclusions. But whether a study if for my point of view or against it, it must meet standards to ensure there was no bias or corruption of the study. Her study used a corrupted control group and was administered by a biased researcher and appears to have been set up to give exactly the results that it did. Under such conditions, the conclusion cannot be accepted as uncorrupted or accurate.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is because you don't understand the difference between a State Constitutional Amendment and a Federal Amendment nor how they are ratified. You apparently don't understand what Prop 8 was either. Such passion you have for this social issue, You really ought to take a civics class.

    Courts overruled the State Constitutional Amendment that passed in California with 52% of the vote. Courts cannot overrule a Federal Constitutional Amendment. Federal Constitutional Amendments are ratified by the states not popular vote in the nation. If the States ratify a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution there is nothing the courts can do about it. You lose.

    My post makes perfect sense to anyone who understands civics, polling, and election results.
    Hahaha this is *never* going to happen. Gay rights opponents are being soundly defeated at the ballot, the courts, and legislature. Even in GW's reign they couldn't pass a federal ban. Within 18 months it will be *legal* federally. Give it up

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    My boyfriend and I just watched this and we both got a little soppy eyed.
    I literally shed tears when Boltie/Libby got killed.


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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Don't get too excited. I'm getting really crap tequila, because I'm a sore loser like that.
    Like that will make any difference.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Did you not declare that deformities are not normal? And you care so much about what is and is not classified as "normal". Obviously you don't like things that are not normal. You don't like homosexuality and you consider that not normal. So it would seem you do not like people who have deformities either because you don't consider them normal.
    No, it's long past in the thread now, but it's an inane tactic to go back and reverse engineer what I said. Again, and as you know but are now playing games with, my response used deformities in a specific context as a response to a rather silly specific point you were trying to make.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Hahaha this is *never* going to happen. Gay rights opponents are being soundly defeated at the ballot, the courts, and legislature. Even in GW's reign they couldn't pass a federal ban. Within 18 months it will be *legal* federally. Give it up
    Your opinion noted but your opinion conflicts with the vote. In one of the most liberal states in the nation, California, 52% of the people voted against SSM and that was overturned by an activist court. People vote different that the polls show so if what you say is true, it isn't reflected in the majority of the states or even some so called SSM bastions.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Hahaha this is *never* going to happen. Gay rights opponents are being soundly defeated at the ballot, the courts, and legislature. Even in GW's reign they couldn't pass a federal ban. Within 18 months it will be *legal* federally. Give it up
    Yeah, but like, North Carolina.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is because you don't understand the difference between a State Constitutional Amendment and a Federal Amendment nor how they are ratified. You apparently don't understand what Prop 8 was either. Such passion you have for this social issue, You really ought to take a civics class.

    Courts overruled the State Constitutional Amendment that passed in California with 52% of the vote. Courts cannot overrule a Federal Constitutional Amendment. Federal Constitutional Amendments are ratified by the states not popular vote in the nation. If the States ratify a Marriage Amendment to the Constitution there is nothing the courts can do about it. You lose.

    My post makes perfect sense to anyone who understands civics, polling, and election results.
    I foresee the next five years being a very confusing time for you.

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