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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, the only poll that matters is the national poll. Just because certain rightist states remain opposed doesn't alter the fact that the majority of the population supports SSM.
    Your opinion noted but misguided. The national vote doesn't ratify Constitutional Amendments nor elect Congressional Representatives.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Reality is this is a failed argument. Why do people get married? When you can honestly answer that and then see if there is equity between straight and gay couples, you'll understand why your line of reasoning fails.
    Again, your opinion noted and misguided. So you don't have the right to marry any member of the opposite sex that will have you just like me? There are a number of reasons I got married and was married for over 40 years. Malcontents like you simply want attention and aren't going to like the outcome of the Constitutional Amendment defining marriage.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    National polls are irrelevant in ratifying a Constitutional Amendment but may make you feel good.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Just like a conservative. Ignore the courts when it doesn't go your way. Bring on the Constitutional Amendment... you aren't going to like the outcome. Over the past 5-10 years, support for SSM has changed in several states. This trend will continue.
    Just like a liberal, go to the courts when you cannot sell your personal opinion to the majority. Polls are personal opinions at the time based upon how the question is asked and many will say what they believe the pollster wants to hear. The real vote is and always has been quite different. Thought someone of your superior intelligence would have known that? the recent North Carolina vote should tell you that.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Just like a liberal, go to the courts when you cannot sell your personal opinion to the majority. Polls are personal opinions at the time based upon how the question is asked and many will say what they believe the pollster wants to hear. The real vote is and always has been quite different. Thought someone of your superior intelligence would have known that? the recent North Carolina vote should tell you that.
    California, Utah, Oklahoma and Virginia's amendments have been ruled unconstitutional, as will North Carolina's in time.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    California, Utah, Oklahoma and Virginia's amendments have been ruled unconstitutional, as will North Carolina's in time.
    Great, cannot wait for the Constitutional Amendment fight. should be a lot of fun and interesting. You think 61% of those in North Carolina should be ignored?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great, cannot wait for the Constitutional Amendment fight. should be a lot of fun and interesting. You think 61% of those in North Carolina should be ignored?
    Yes. Even a majority who wants to deny rights to others should be ignored.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Sooo, when's that Federal amendment fight coming up?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great, cannot wait for the Constitutional Amendment fight. should be a lot of fun and interesting. You think 61% of those in North Carolina should be ignored?
    In a year or two when you find yourself in a real, live civics class at school, have the teacher explain to you the concept of "tyranny of the majority", k?

    Failing that, at least show you have even the most rudimentary understanding of the separation of powers.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes. Even a majority who wants to deny rights to others should be ignored.
    This country was created based upon a Constitution that provides provisions for ratification of a amendments. National popular polls were never the tool to ratify our Constitution. Why is it you continue to ignore the votes of the people and instead always point to polls? The People of California overwhelming rejected same sex marriage until overturned by the courts. The people of North Carolina told the pollsters one thing and voted the opposite. You just don't get it but will when the Constitutional Amendment is ratififed

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