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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Whuh? I said 35 minus 8. And even if you don't accept my interpretation of those 8 states, you still only have 35, which is 3 shy of the result you're hoping for.
    What is going to be interesting is how people vote vs what they say to pollsters. History says there is a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is going to be interesting is how people vote vs what they say to pollsters. History says there is a big difference.
    History shows more people actively supporting gay rights.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Seriously?

    Some chick I've never heard of, who has had roles in one, maybe two, significant movies, comes out of the closet and this is somehow news?

    Good Lord, who really cares?
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    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    History shows more people actively supporting gay rights.
    What people do in a voting booth is different than what they tell a pollster. N.C. polls showed a very close vote on a Constitutional Amendment. When the votes were counted it wasn't close as all and the amendment overwhelmingly passed

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What people do in a voting booth is different than what they tell a pollster. N.C. polls showed a very close vote on a Constitutional Amendment. When the votes were counted it wasn't close as all and the amendment overwhelmingly passed
    I did not say anything about polls. I said actively supporting. Case in point


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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    This incessant need to announce gonad preference........

    "Look at me! Look at me! Please, please, please, look at me!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What people do in a voting booth is different than what they tell a pollster. N.C. polls showed a very close vote on a Constitutional Amendment. When the votes were counted it wasn't close as all and the amendment overwhelmingly passed
    What a state is doing now doesn't define long term trends. And as far as ignoring the sum total of poll results, all I have to say is, "Warning: sharp learning curve ahead."

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Seriously?

    Some chick I've never heard of, who has had roles in one, maybe two, significant movies, comes out of the closet and this is somehow news?

    Good Lord, who really cares?
    It relevent for some for the same reason any celebrity endorsement is relevent - it reaffirms what folks are doing, what they believe, is okay and popular.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What a state is doing now doesn't define long term trends. And as far as ignoring the sum total of poll results, all I have to say is, "Warning: sharp learning curve ahead."
    Yet when the poll was taken in North Carolina the outcome was 50/50 yet when the vote was taken it was a landslide supporting marriage being between a man and a woman. Happens all the time, people act differently when asked vs when they vote.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yet when the poll was taken in North Carolina the outcome was 50/50 yet when the vote was taken it was a landslide supporting marriage being between a man and a woman. Happens all the time, people act differently when asked vs when they vote.
    That's fine, but if you remember what I said earlier, that doesn't impact the idea of a Federal amendment because, once again, you don't have the numbers. And as I already said, the courts will eventually sweep up the states that have a problem understanding the importance of civil liberties (if the USSC doesn't do it first). I have no problems understanding that there will be holdout states.

    No matter how many times you attempt to derail me from the above facts by pointing out whichever state just happened to pass an amendment against gay marriage, it will still never change the fact that you don't have the numbers.

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