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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Interesting, so gay men do not need to even be gay, they could just find a sufficiently masculine woman and it would be the same?
    That woman would have to all the required attributes to pique that man's feminine (and/or masculine) mode of attraction.

    Otherwise, there's no attraction (i. e. he likes the way she looks, but is repulsed by her breasts).

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    It is a pointless argument because the logic is flawed. Unless those who make this accusation treat every human behavior that they consider "not normal" the same then they have no basis for applying it here. Think of how many things human beings do that are not "normal" that don't suffer the same judgment or condemnation. Not to mention the behaviors that have been judged this way that have benefited society as a whole. I think it is healthier to embrace the distinction.
    There is a simple test to determine if a form of emotional/instinctual behavior (i. e. sex) is normal--if other animals do it, it's normal; if they don't, it's abnormal.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    The norm is to be Asian, so statistically speaking, yes but to a lesser degree.
    Why do you consider Asians to be normal? Only about 1 in 3 people if I remember right are Asian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    There is a simple test to determine if a form of emotional/instinctual behavior (i. e. sex) is normal--if other animals do it, it's normal; if they don't, it's abnormal.
    ah, then it is normal for humans to eat other human's ****, for males to kill the children of other males, to reproduce with your mother, sister, aunt, cousin, etc, to kill and eat other humans, etc, etc, etc......
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why do you consider Asians to be normal? Only about 1 in 3 people if I remember right are Asian.

    East Asian 24% (Korea, Mongolia ,China, Japan)
    South Asian 21% (India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal)
    Southeast Asian 9% (Cambodia, Bruma, Philippines, Malayasia)
    Black 15%
    White 15%
    Hispanic 8%
    Middle Eastern 8%
    statistically, Asian is the norm. although the variation is not nearly as marked as that between hetero and homo. so you could argue that since the % are actually pretty evenly divided, there is no "norm" when it comes to race
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    54% (ie the majority) of the world's population is Asian. Statistically, Asian is the "norm"
    Source I found said 2.2 billion. Are you including Indian and middle eastern?
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Source I found said 2.2 billion. Are you including Indian and middle eastern?
    true, see my edit
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    my point is, arguing "natural" and "normal" has nothing to do with whether or not something is socially acceptable and is therefore a stupid line of reasoning. There are lots of "natural" and therefore "normal" things that are not socially acceptable. Just as there are lots of "unnatural" things that are socially acceptable.
    While that is true it does not make it right. If the state can show a compelling interest or harm done to others then that is legal justification for a law. It may have been "socially acceptable" to limit the number of and gender of marriage partners, yet not business partners, but the state lacks, IMHO, a reason for this decision. If you can provide such a reason then please inform us of it.

    You seem willing to accept basically anything that a majority of voter's representatives agree on as a "socially acceptable" law, such as magazine capacity limits, even if that has no other basis and seems counter to the 2A. Simply because a majority (actually a plurality) don't like alcohol, tobacco or marijuana possession, sales or consumption does not mean that they may force all others to accept their view of what is "socially acceptable".
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    While that is true it does not make it right. If the state can show a compelling interest or harm done to others then that is legal justification for a law. It may have been "socially acceptable" to limit the number of and gender of marriage partners, yet not business partners, but the state lacks, IMHO, a reason for this decision. If you can provide such a reason then please inform us of it.

    You seem willing to accept basically anything that a majority of voter's representatives agree on as a "socially acceptable" law, such as magazine capacity limits, even if that has no other basis and seems counter to the 2A. Simply because a majority (actually a plurality) don't like alcohol, tobacco or marijuana possession, sales or consumption does not mean that they may force all others to accept their view of what is "socially acceptable".
    I never said any of that. I have nothing against homosexuality, I just stated a simple fact. statistically, homosexuality is not "normal".
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    ah, then it is normal for humans to eat other human's ****, for males to kill the children of other males, to reproduce with your mother, sister, aunt, cousin, etc, to kill and eat other humans, etc, etc, etc......
    Humans do all of that. There's nothing abnormal about it. Of course, rules of conduct are a separate issue, and animals certainly have those as well.

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