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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Do I have to repeat, again, the context of her coming out? I've only posted it three ****ing times.

    She was at a conference, speaking to adults (mostly counselors) who work with LGBTQ youth. This was not some sort of press conference.
    OMG, what? You think it just slipped out? Again, her career requires she stay constantly on the lips of the public. She wanted publicity and she got it.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    wrongo and a stupid pointless line of argument.

    by the standard definition, homosexuality is not normal. only a very small % of the population is homosexual, therefore homosexuality is definitely outside of the "norm" and is therefore not normal.
    Homosexuality is no less "normal" than being left handed or having blue eyes. Simply having a non-dominant trait does not make something not "normal" it just makes it not an average or a majority trait. Different is not always wrong - get over it.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    So another plain looking chick comes out? Big deal. Sooooo surprised.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I wasn't even trying to get involved in your debate. I just had a bit of .02 cents to add so I did...

    I'm giving you MY opinion/theory on birth defects - not my position or opinion on your little debate.
    Okay, but it still fails contextually and inaccurate considering what we were talking about. It was just so out of left field.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    OMG, what? You think it just slipped out? Again, her career requires she stay constantly on the lips of the public. She wanted publicity and she got it.
    How amusingly cynical of you. Of course it didn't "just slip out."

    Given the roles she normally takes, and her general public persona, she certainly doesn't outwardly appear to be a publicity whore. But please, continue to prattle on about someone you've never met, taking wild guesses at their true motives.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Hey, there's yet another in the long line of dishonest arguments from those who can't deal with the acceptance of homosexuality. "You support gay people's right to live openly; hence, you must be gay!!!1"
    There is no damn denial in homosexuality or the fact the act exists - the issue to some is weather or not it is acceptable behavior, and to go deeper homosexuals cannot reproduce (at least not by natural choice)....

    Also, people like you seem to believe that since someone is opposed to homosexuality they hate all homosexuals or will treat them with bias at every opportunity.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    How amusingly cynical of you. Of course it didn't "just slip out."

    Given the roles she normally takes, and her general public persona, she certainly doesn't outwardly appear to be a publicity whore. But please, continue to prattle on about someone you've never met, taking wild guesses at their true motives.
    Such nonsense. Her career involves being a "publicity whore". It's central to what she does for a living. Without it she has no career in film.

    If it didn't just slip out, then that means she planned it and at that venue where she'd be guaranteed to get the requisite publicity she requires from it.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Okay, but it still fails contextually and inaccurate considering what we were talking about. It was just so out of left field.
    Well that is one of my virtues - I do come out of left field a lot and add a lot of opinions and theories that sometimes wont relate to the discussion at hand... After all you did leave the door open for me to make my comments.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    I never said the theory was complete, just that there have been some interesting discoveries along the way. Re: gay women vs. gay men, it's believed (but not proven) that the mechanisms are different.

    As for the urge to pro-create... I think that is a very personal choice and not necessarily something you can conclude of everyone. There are straight and gay people everywhere who know that they never want children. I don't think it's a sexual orientation thing. Some people have the drive to do it and others are doing it because of social expectation, the values they were raised with, etc.
    Well if it's NOT a sexual orientation thing, then didn't you just re-affirm why MOST researchers have abandoned that idea in the first place.

    As to the interesting discoveries, can you be a little more specific with what you personally found interesting?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It's easier for some people here to continue advocating for discrimination if it's not perceived as "normal."
    Sure, I guess I should have specified I was looking for a legitimate reason that being "not normal" could be used to justify denying anyone equal rights or being treated like a human being. We all know that if being normal is a legitimate reason to discriminate we're all in a whole **** load of trouble.
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