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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    So a sociopath that is happy and functional does not suffer from a mental illness? Really?

    You might do a medical search on the effects of anal penetration, of both male and females, not strictly homosexuals, it can cause distress and dysfunction. As a minimum it causes tearing, that is how HIV gets into the system of male homosexuals. Otherwise there would be no blood to blood or semen to blood conduit for it to pass.
    Sociopaths are classified as having antisocial personality disorder which leads to a disregard of the rights of others and unstable or broken relationships. As such it causes dysfunction. Please refer to the DSM.

    Anal sex is a specific sexual behavior, not a mental illness. and over a third of heterosexuals have reported doing it. I am not sure why that is relevant since straight people do it and not all gay people do it.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Yeah see, problem with you gay uncle theory or the gay brothers theory is that it doesn't seem consistent, although it does make for good headlines. IN terms of the gay uncle, the major glaring, (Well glaring if you're not looking at it with rose colored glasses on) problem with that theory is that gay men still have about as much intrinsic desire to procreate as we hetero folks. How do you explain that Northern Light? Not to mention how does a gay female hold up to that theory? Probably not very well, thus both "theories" have been mostly abandoned.


    Again, sorry to ruin this lovely gay thread, but I am compelled to set the record straight.


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    I never said the theory was complete, just that there have been some interesting discoveries along the way. Re: gay women vs. gay men, it's believed (but not proven) that the mechanisms are different.

    As for the urge to pro-create... I think that is a very personal choice and not necessarily something you can conclude of everyone. There are straight and gay people everywhere who know that they never want children. I don't think it's a sexual orientation thing. Some people have the drive to do it and others are doing it because of social expectation, the values they were raised with, etc.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    If that is the will of the people then so be it.

    Exactly, we are a nation of laws and trying to make everything a civil right is something that will force the silent majority to speak up

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Sociopaths are classified as having antisocial personality disorder which leads to a disregard of the rights of others and unstable or broken relationships. As such it causes dysfunction. Please refer to the DSM.

    Anal sex is a specific sexual behavior, not a mental illness. and over a third of heterosexuals have reported doing it. I am not sure why that is relevant since straight people do it and not all gay people do it.
    Sociopaths lack empathy.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly, we are a nation of laws and trying to make everything a civil right is something that will force the silent majority to speak up
    I wouldn't go that far.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I wouldn't go that far.
    IMO, Sexual orientation is a personal choice not a civil right and those that want sexual orientation to be a civil right aren't going to like the outcome.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    IMO, Sexual orientation is a personal choice not a civil right and those that want sexual orientation to be a civil right aren't going to like the outcome.
    Well, I have a completely different philosophy - government should just stay out of marriage or "unions" all together.... After all there are no federal marriage laws anyways.

    At the same time I respect the Bill of Rights including the Tenth Amendment.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Well, I have a completely different philosophy - government should just stay out of marriage or "unions" all together.... After all there are no federal marriage laws anyways.

    At the same time I respect the Bill of Rights including the Tenth Amendment.
    Not really so different, there isn't a federal marriage law because marriage is common law controlled by the states and that is where it belongs. I respect the Bill of Rights as well but unfortunately far too many are trying to make sexual orientation part of the Bill of Rights and they aren't going to like the outcome.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You are the one harping on people with deformities for not being "normal". Poor form sir.
    Nonsense, I used birth deformities as an example of just how busted your argument was. Context, look into it and rejoin the discussion.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    But laws evolve as we evolve and undeserved judgment fades away. Take interracial marriage for instance.
    Won't change that there will still be some behaviors the group judges as not deserving of equal treatment or that should be banned in certain circumstances/situations. You asked for examples, I gave them to you.

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