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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Societal stigma and bullying. Every minority in the United States has a higher suicide rate but being a minority is not a mental illness.
    That's not true though:

    Suicide rate for minorities much lower, Census data indicate | News Reporting and the Internet

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    By definition there is nothing normal about being gay except to someone else that is gay but that doesn't make it normal in the true definition of the word. You seem so focused and supportive of the gay and lesbian lifestyle, are you trying to tell us something? Coming out of the closet? I long thought that might be the case.
    Okay what is the "true" definition of the word normal?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You do not get to define what is considered normal to other people. The more you try to control the thoughts of others by telling what they can and cannot consider normal the more apparent your desire for moral tyranny becomes.
    Only when you spend all your time redefining words. Normal has a meaning.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    I'm married to a Beautiful Japanese girl who I have a son with.

    Because I stand up for individual liberty you attack me.

    You're a fraud, a fake, you're not a Small Government Conservative, you're a Republican Stooge only.

    Whatever they so goes for you including discrimination against gays.
    If you were sincere in your beliefs you wouldn't see what was said as an "attack".

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    She is dumb. There's no such thing as "gay." "Gay" and "straight" are outdated early 21st century terms.
    What now? Have the terms switched to hetero-American and homo-American and nobody's told me?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay what is the "true" definition of the word normal?
    It seems you could probably look that one up yourself.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It seems you could probably look that one up yourself.
    So if I say:

    "It is normal for a certain percentage of the population to be homosexual."

    Am I using the "true" definition of the word?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    By definition there is nothing normal about being gay except to someone else that is gay but that doesn't make it normal in the true definition of the word.
    1,500 species disagree w/you. . .

    Research indicates that various forms of this are found throughout the animal kingdom.[1][2] As of 1999, nearly 1,500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, have been observed engaging in same-sex behaviors; this is well documented in about 500 species.[3][4]

    Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The only thing unnatural is the classifcation of members of the human species into "gays" and "straights", i. e. the notion that man confines its sexual interaction a priori to exclusively one of 2 genders.

    There is zero evidence in the non-human animal animal kingdom of such confinement, among all the species identified above--not one of those species is, for example, gay--mates w/only members of the same sex.

    It makes no sense at all that humans can claim that such a distinction exists when there's no evidence of it in other species.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So if I say:

    "It is normal for a certain percentage of the population to be homosexual."

    Am I using the "true" definition of the word?
    Yes, especially if you said "very small percentage" instead of "certain percentage". However, if you said that homosexuality was normal sexual behavior you'd be wrong.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    1,500 species disagree w/you. . .



    The only thing unnatural is the classifcation of members of the human species into "gays" and "straights", i. e. the notion that man confines its sexual interaction a priori to exclusively one of 2 genders.

    There is zero evidence in the non-human animal animal kingdom of such confinement, among all the species identified above--not one of those species is, for example, gay--mates w/only members of the same sex.

    It makes no sense at all that humans can claim that such a distinction exists when there's no evidence of it in other species.
    Well this cuts into the whole "you're born gay (or straight)" doesn't it? Now we're back to it being a choice and all the baggage that goes with that.

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