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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Homosexuality isn't necessarily a "deleterious trait." I can think of a perfectly good evolutionary reason for homosexuality to exist. Population control.
    I was thinking the same thing.

    If every man and woman had a child, the world would get over populated pretty quickly.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Population control is not really a built-in feature of human evolution, or any species really. Population control usually comes in the form of an externality like the tragedy of the commons.

    In the womb we are all female by default until complex genetic-mediated hormonal processes make us switch from female to male. The best explanation I have read so far for homosexuality is that with each successive male pregnancy, a woman may develop antibodies to the newly forming androgens which help shape male neurology. It's already known that a disproportionate number of gay men have more male siblings.

    In more ancient terms, it would mean that such a child would be less likely to reproduce as an adult, thus being less weighed down by the responsibility of raising a child and more able to offer auxiliary support to their family / community. For this reason, we cannot assume that the process is a result of a defect. It probably has a very useful purpose. Gay men have differing abilities than straight men, statistically. Their linguistic and spatial orientation skills are usually superior.

    Unfortunately, this theory doesn't fit 100% because our knowledge of the ancient world also tells us that sexuality was a lot more fluid. Men often had sexual encounters yet still formed pair-bonds with women for reproduction. In ancient Greece it was common for an older man to school a younger man in sexuality (the ancient form of pederasty), while also teaching him to honor the traditional obligation of pro-creation.

    At this point I feel that 'gay' is an identity that becomes hardwired with time, combined with a predisposition, but is not necessarily a biological trait... which is why, so far, a gene for it has not been found. I think that, without being raised in an environment with so much identity politics, humans are just sexual opportunists.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Probably a number closer to suicide rates of heterosexuals
    Not even close. Suicide rate for homosexuals is 2-4 times that of heterosexuals. Reasons cited for suicidality amongst homosexuals, not in any particular order:

    1) Non-acceptance from family members.
    2) Being bullied or harassed.
    3) Living in a heterocentric culture.
    4) Being a minority.
    5) Homophobia.
    6) Denial of services that heterosexuals receive such as marriage.

    Now, do you feel silly.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Ok let's take bestiality out of it, how about your sister or brother?
    Any slippery slope argument will work, eh?
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, I am showing that gay rights supporters are hypocrites and they are
    Actually, you're not. You are showing that you don't understand the issue and prefer to argue from a position of logical fallacies.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yet you waste your time responding to me.
    Actually, I don't at all. You never seem to remember that I don't respond to you for YOU, I respond to you for ME.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I thought it was obvious that you waste my time making me read the trash you folks post. It was assumed.
    You do realize that how you spend your time is irrelevant to me. But it is good to know that we have control over you, making you read what we write. How does it feel to be controlled by anonymous people on the internet, Tigger?
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Do you have a link to a free copy of the complete work, instead of just the summery?
    Though poorly formatted, I believe this is the only copy of the complete work, online:

    hooker.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Indeed.

    In this case, there's a very good reason why they are, have always been, and will always be, a small minority.

    From an evolutionary standpoint, their aberration is a dead end—something that the process of natural selection tries to weed out for the betterment of the species as a whole.
    More ignorance from the king of ignorance on this topic, Bob Blaylock. The percentage of homosexuals in the population has been fairly static... around 4% for all of recorded history. So, as usual on this topic, Bob, you have no clue as to what you are talking about.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Sexual orientation absolutely is a factor when it comes to reproduction.
    A factor but NOT a requirement.

    Homosexuals can reproduce, but in order to do so, they have to go against their nature, and participate in heterosexual matings. This certainly makes them significantly less likely to reproduce, and to pass their traits on to future generations, than heterosexuals who, can reproduce without taking extraordinary means to violate their nature.
    Yet, since we know that homosexuals are often the result of heterosexual matings, and heterosexuals are often the result of homosexual matings, the genetics of passing down these traits does not apply in the way that you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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