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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great, get it on the ballot and let's see how far you get

    Public Support for Marriage for Same-sex Couples by State | Williams Institute
    What? What does any of this have to do with whether or not you also support slavery because it was 'supported by history' too?
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Probably because you haven't lived as a gay person in a society that treats them like second-class citizens and sometimes beats them to death for being who they are. Or just beats and harasses them as teenagers until they commit suicide, which is the same thing, really.
    Kids get bullied by other kids. That isn't exactly new nor is it somehow isolated to just gay individuals.

    People are assholes and pick on others for all kinds of things. Sometimes those things the target can help and other times they can't. Again, this isn't new nor is isolated to gay individuals.

    I'm not feeling the pity party here.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    Not because they are straight.
    Sure they do. There are several things that make straight people different that can result in being ridiculed and even physically abused by another group. Color, religion, physical features like bucked teeth, being fat or super skinny, even the sharpest pencils in the box can be ridiculed over their intellect by the dumb and ignorant.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    What? What does any of this have to do with whether or not you also support slavery because it was 'supported by history' too?
    Look, you want to play your silly games, play with someone else. Slavery was outlawed by a Constitutional Amendment change making race a civil right and preventing discrimination. Marriage is common law and not a civil right. You want to make it a civil right, go for it by creating a Constitutional Amendment. I posted how difficult that is going to be for you but then again laws don't matter to liberals who prefer having the courts overturn them and legislating from the bench. You aren't going to like the outcome.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    I think it's the other way around.
    I thought it was obvious that you waste my time making me read the trash you folks post. It was assumed.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Look, you want to play your silly games, play with someone else. Slavery was outlawed by a Constitutional Amendment .
    Actually you are wrong. It was the Emancipation Proclamation and that was ****drum roll please**** an executive order!

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Actually you are wrong. It was the Emancipation Proclamation and that was ****drum roll please**** an executive order!
    Nope. Since the Emancipation Proclamation was a military measure, it didn’t apply to border slave states like Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky and Missouri that remained loyal to the Union. Also, selected areas of the Confederacy were exempted due to them coming under Union control in hopes of gaining the loyalty of whites in those states. In reality, the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t immediately free a single slave.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Nope. Since the Emancipation Proclamation was a military measure, it didn’t apply to border slave states like Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky and Missouri that remained loyal to the Union. Also, selected areas of the Confederacy were exempted due to them coming under Union control in hopes of gaining the loyalty of whites in those states. In reality, the Emancipation Proclamation didn’t immediately free a single slave.
    Around 20,000 to 50,000 slaves in regions where rebellion had already been subdued were immediately emancipated. It could not be enforced in areas still under rebellion, but as the Union army took control of Confederate regions, the Proclamation provided the legal framework for freeing more than 3 million more slaves in those regions.

    Emancipation Proclamation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Actually you are wrong. It was the Emancipation Proclamation and that was ****drum roll please**** an executive order!
    Partially correct however the Emancipation Proclamation was part of the war powers act given to Lincoln and authorized release of the slaves after the Confederacy was dissolved. It was the 13th Amendment that outlawed slavery. Freeing the slaves and outlawing slavery are two different issues.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Around 20,000 to 50,000 slaves in regions where rebellion had already been subdued were immediately emancipated. It could not be enforced in areas still under rebellion, but as the Union army took control of Confederate regions, the Proclamation provided the legal framework for freeing more than 3 million more slaves in those regions.

    Emancipation Proclamation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Do you read the entire article or just the headlines? As usual you are wrong again

    The Proclamation only applied to slaves in Confederate-held lands; it did not apply to those in the four slave states that were not in rebellion (Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, and Missouri, which were unnamed), nor to Tennessee (also unnamed), and specifically excluded counties of Virginia soon to form the state of West Virginia. Also specifically excluded (by name) were some regions already controlled by the Union army. Emancipation in those places would come after separate state actions and/or the December 1865 ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment, which made slavery and indentured servitude, except for those duly convicted of a crime, illegal everywhere subject to United States jurisdiction.[4]

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