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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How so? Does she recognize her temptation and chose to overcome it instead of living in that sin?
    It's YOUR opinion of sin. My religion does not consider it a sin, therefore for me, your point is irrelevant.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It's YOUR opinion of sin. My religion does not consider it a sin, therefore for me, your point is irrelevant.
    No, it's God's view of sin which is absolute. All other beliefs and religions, when contrasted with truth, are simply just wrong. God doesn't judge sin based on what Digsbe, CaptainCourtesy, or what anyone else believes. He judges sin based on what He has set forth as absolute truth that we, as individuals, can either accept or reject.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I haven't read the whole study, just the summery of it on Wikipedia and another site. I however have a question. She points to there being no developmental issues or other psychological issues as proof. However, the same test results could also "prove" that depression, sociopathy and others, are also not mental issues by her standards. The lack of additional issues does not prove or disprove whether something is a mental disorder.
    No, that's not what the study determined. What the study determined was that when assessing people with no psychological issues, one cannot tell the difference between someone who is heterosexual or someone who is homosexual. There is no inherent mental illness. If one were to do the same kinds of assessments on someone who is depressed verses someone who is not, those assessment tools would absolutely demonstrate differences.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wow, I am so proud of her, she joins three percent of the population and gets touted as a heroine. Why don't you people just STFU and stop flaunting your sexual activity? This is unbelievable and no wonder it is a polarizing issue. Keep your sexual activity to yourself. I am so sick and tired of this issue and people who "come out" being treated as someone special. With all the problems facing this country some people have interesting priorities and a different definition of what is important and worthy of hero status. You people are something else
    Then don't comment. Real easy concept to grasp.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    In other words, you are unable to answer the questions posed.
    No, in other words your post was unintelligible.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    No, it's God's view of sin which is absolute. All other beliefs and religions, when contrasted with truth, are simply just wrong. God doesn't judge sin based on what Digsbe, CaptainCourtesy, or what anyone else believes. He judges sin based on what He has set forth as absolute truth that we, as individuals, can either accept or reject.
    Did God say this to you personally? Or have you interpreted your knowledge from a 2,000 year old book that was written in three different ancient languages and based on stories that were passed down orally?
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    No, it's God's view of sin which is absolute. All other beliefs and religions, when contrasted with truth, are simply just wrong. God doesn't judge sin based on what Digsbe, CaptainCourtesy, or what anyone else believes. He judges sin based on what He has set forth as absolute truth that we, as individuals, can either accept or reject.
    No, it's YOUR interpretation of God's view of sin. My religion's view is correct, and all others are simply wrong, since it is my religion that sets God's absolute view of sin.

    Now, we know that morals are not absolute, but relative, but if you want to play the absolute game. you'll lose there, too, since MY religion is what is absolute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Then don't comment. Real easy concept to grasp.
    Keep throwing it in my face and all over TV and I am going to comment. I don't give a damn what your sexual orientation is, quit flaunting it and quit acting like flaunting it is something to be celebrated.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Personally, when I hear about someone "coming out" nowadays, usually I think two things:

    1) No big deal... to me, it's equivalent to someone coming out as straight.
    2) Somewhat brave in this climate, when even though there is more acceptance of homosexuality, we still see hateful, ignorant, bigotry around, similar to what we see from some in this thread.

    I have the same thoughts as you do CC.....course with the Entertainers the MS media does like to embellish over this coming out, Shine Down upon me.

    But then I lately I keep saying. Why don't heterosexuals do the same. Same deal with all the actors and actresses. Make a Big Stink about it and get out there and have party time all over the place.

    Let them come out and proclaiming such too. Let the LGTB community start hearing that all up in the Media like they do now with those that are just like them. I'll bet we will see the same attitudes. Who cares. Big Deal......this is not news. So what!

    Do you think like half a decade down the road, that both would knock off the practice.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Did God say this to you personally? Or have you interpreted your knowledge from a 2,000 year old book that was written in three different ancient languages and based on stories that were passed down orally?
    It's plainly in the Bible. Do you not believe that God can preserve His Word? We still have the original languages to reference by and there has been nothing to the contrary that God now approves of homosexual sex or that the description of homosexual sex being sin was meant to be temporary for a purpose. The Bible is the Word of God, we have manuscripts of in the original languages that we translate by.

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    No, it's YOUR interpretation of God's view of sin. My religion's view is correct, and all others are simply wrong, since it is my religion that sets God's absolute view of sin.

    Now, we know that morals are not absolute, but relative, but if you want to play the absolute game. you'll lose there, too, since MY religion is what is absolute.
    Let me explain it this way. We have laws set before us in this life as well. The law says that murder is illegal, stealing is illegal, rape is illegal and other things. Someone may personally believe that murdering someone else isn't wrong, that stealing isn't wrong, that rape isn't wrong and then commit those acts with the personally held opinion that to do so is not wrong or illegal. When they are brought to court their actions are judged based on the word of law, not based on their subjective opinions that may or may not be correct or incorrect. If someone murdered another person under the personal belief that the person deserved it, that it was justified or that as the stronger individual they had a right to kill someone else they will still be judged by the letter of that law and judged accordingly by the higher power (in this case, the legal system). Their personal beliefs and interpretations didn't alter the truth of the law that murder is illegal, wrong and will be punished.

    The Bible is the ultimate authority for law, sin and the path to salvation as it is the Word of God. Someone can believe whatever they want, but if what they believe is in conflict with God's Word then what that person believes is wrong. Someone may believe that having an adulterous affair, homosexual sex, murder or any other thing that the Bible clearly says is an act of sin against God will be judged according to what is absolute, in that the person was absolutely wrong with God's Word being the absolute source of truth when it comes to "is this act right or wrong?" Say one person believes in reincarnation, one is an atheist and believes that when we die we just rot and another is a Christian that believes in God and judgement as described in the Bible. When they die, are their beliefs subjective? Does each individual go to a reality that they themselves constructed simply because they constructed it and truth is subjective to the person?
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