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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And apparently I haven't been keeping account. All but 8 of the states that prevent gay marriage are filing suits?



    Same-Sex Marriage Lawsuits Exploding in U.S. Courts - NBC News

    The USSC ruling really was the beginning of the end.
    Which is why this country is going to be forced into a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage, no court can overrule that

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Please stop, engaging in purely hetero or homosexual acts is not the same thing as being gay or straight....
    If the terms "gay" and "straight" were defined as whether one is most likely to find attractive attributes in members of the same or opposite sex, then there would be no problem.

    But that's not the way they're defined. As they're used in daily life, they mean someone who permamently excludes, a priori, a member of the same or opposite sex from his romantic life, because his psyche doesn't permit such an attraction.

    And the two definitions are not equivalent.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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    Which is why this country is going to be forced into a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage, no court can overrule that
    And what happens when two parts of the constitution conflict? Not that such a silly amendment would ever pass, but the arguments that it violates equal protection would still be valid. The only body that could rule which part of the constitution trumps whichever other part would be the supreme court. So, despite what you say, such a situation could very well result in the court overruling a constitutional amendment.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The complete inability to be attracted to one gender is inconsistent w/the evidence obtained from observing complex non-human primates and other animals.

    However, no conclusive study has been on humans alone as to whether gayness or straightness is a myth. Such a study would have to involve humans who have been completely isolated from the social pressures associated w/popular perceptions of how humans are supposed to behave sexually, and that's likely impossible to set up.

    Any other study would be invalid.
    Exactly. No such study exists, so for you to claim that pure attraction to only one gender does not exist is, at best, intellectually dishonest. At worst, it smacks of personal agenda.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Good, do the research and get back to me. While you are researching please find the term marriage in the Constitution.

    Got it, if a homosexual told you something you would believe it but because I told you something you have to do the research. Try doing it with what the homosexual tells you as well and ask that homosexual as to what their problem is with civil unions?
    Reading is fundamental. I thought I told you that already. I never said I would take the word of a gay person without question. Quit it with the straw men arguments. They don't help your case.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Courts do not have the authority to overturn a Constitutional Amendment and that is what you are going to force on the SSM crowd. You aren't going to like the outcome. Courts don't agree and it is interesting that you only buy the rulings that support your point of view
    No, courts do not have that authority. On that, you are correct. But, there is no evidence that a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage is, or wil be, happening. So, you can keep dreaming.
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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    And what happens when two parts of the constitution conflict? Not that such a silly amendment would ever pass, but the arguments that it violates equal protection would still be valid. The only body that could rule which part of the constitution trumps whichever other part would be the supreme court. So, despite what you say, such a situation could very well result in the court overruling a constitutional amendment.
    And what two parts would that be, when Marriage is defined there is no conflict. You want sexual preference protected and that is never going to happen.

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Koros View Post
    No, courts do not have that authority. On that, you are correct. But, there is no evidence that a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage is, or wil be, happening. So, you can keep dreaming.
    You are wrong, when the courts overturn the will of the people the people will speak and always have

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are wrong, when the courts overturn the will of the people the people will speak and always have
    So if the will of the people tomorrow were to ban interracial marriage you would just shrug?

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    re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And what two parts would that be, when Marriage is defined there is no conflict. You want sexual preference protected and that is never going to happen.
    He's referring to the equal protection clause, which was specifically made to protect minorities against the will of a majority.
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